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Date:      Wed, 8 Jul 2015 08:35:15 +0100
From:      Steven Hartland <killing@multiplay.co.uk>
To:        Yamagi Burmeister <lists@yamagi.org>
Cc:        freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Device timeouts(?) with LSI SAS3008 on mpr(4)
Message-ID:  <559CD2B3.7000404@multiplay.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <20150708074652.07a815e6aa08526d569f3077@yamagi.org>
References:  <20150707132416.71b44c90f7f4cd6014a304b2@yamagi.org> <9426ced85d7def424e106fdefd7448ae@mail.gmail.com> <20150707183135.2c3f5aa45696b55a17e2f87f@yamagi.org> <559C0184.4050102@multiplay.co.uk> <20150708074652.07a815e6aa08526d569f3077@yamagi.org>

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Actually not, it could indicate a design problem with the midplane / 
backplane is the cause of the issue.

We've had a number of Supermicro and Dell chassis when used in 
combination with 6Gbps+ devices particularly SSD's that exhibit timeouts 
like you describe, all turned out to be a backplane issue.

We proved this in by connecting the drives direct to the controller with 
high quality cables eliminating the hotswap backplane, after which the 
timeouts stopped.

This is a PITA to test as power is supplied by the hotswap backplane, 
but I wouldn't recommend you look anywhere else till you've eliminated 
this as a potential cause.

     Regards
     Steve

On 08/07/2015 06:46, Yamagi Burmeister wrote:
> Hello Steven,
> since the issue occures on all 3 servers it's at least unlikely. But
> I'll see what I can do.
>
> Regards,
> Yamagi
>
> On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 17:42:44 +0100
> Steven Hartland <killing@multiplay.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Have you eliminated the midplane / cabling as the issue as that's very
>> common.
>>




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