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Subject: Re: It is safe to build ports for 7.0 from a 6.3 chroot?
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On Tuesday 04 March 2008 13:07:21 Bogdan =C4=86ulibrk wrote:
> Mel wrote:
> | Minimize downtime of services provided by ports?
> |
> | Jose: take a look at Tinderbox - it does exactly what you want to do:
>
> build
>
> | ports for OS release X on OS release Y, using chroot. If you're unsure
>
> about
>
> | your own method, because of OSVERSION or similar, do it using Tinderbox.
>
> IMHO, the usual procedure described in handbook will satisfy 95% of
> upgrade scenarios. Others can install compat6x port right after (or
> before) reboot.

And then upgrade all ports, while the services are running?

> In any case, be free to try whatever scenario works for you, but I would
> ~ not like to be the one who inherits server with such 'messy-upgrade' :|

Just cause it doesn't fall into your 95% slice, doesn't make it messy. It's=
 in=20
fact cleaner then using compat6x, *because* compat6x doesn't fall into the=
=20
category of potential causes when things don't work.
=46YI: tinderbox is based on the pointyhat build cluster, which makes all=20
the 'messy' packages for the FreeBSD package servers.

=2D-=20
Mel

Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules
    and never get to the software part.