From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jul 28 22:13:23 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id WAA24902 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 22:13:23 -0700 Received: from UUCP-GW.CC.UH.EDU (UUCP-GW.CC.UH.EDU [129.7.1.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id WAA24895 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 22:13:19 -0700 Received: from Taronga.COM by UUCP-GW.CC.UH.EDU with UUCP id AA15454 (5.67a/IDA-1.5); Fri, 28 Jul 1995 23:51:58 -0500 Received: by bonkers.taronga.com (smail2.5p) id AA17744; 28 Jul 95 23:51:16 CDT (Fri) Received: (from peter@localhost) by bonkers.taronga.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id XAA17741; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 23:51:15 -0500 From: Peter da Silva Message-Id: <199507290451.XAA17741@bonkers.taronga.com> Subject: Re: What's in a name To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 23:51:15 -0500 (CDT) Cc: peter@taronga.com, hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <936.806984854@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Jul 28, 95 07:27:34 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 537 Sender: hackers-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > There are a number of "global objects" hanging around your modern UN*X > system that really don't want to be files and need to be substantially > twisted into weird shapes in order to get them to fit. Only because the interfaces have never been really cleanly designed. IOCTL is a perfect example of how the interface has been more or less abandoned. Those sorts of rough edges should have long since been dealt with. In Plan 9 they have been, at the cost of neglecting most of the past ten years worth of user interface design. :-(