From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 06:38:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408F91065675 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 06:38:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03EFF8FC0A for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 06:38:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn35 with SMTP id 35so8262197iwn.13 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 23:38:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=MBgYRp5SChCjwsszFPIcE3H1suVdBGtUdmijpwqxlVA=; b=mYUFA/8Nj68EB32p8nWdc7rnS04gUm69CJQAJj9qrZdHTxTY5fSGPjZm1TMF6noaT6 urraJ9s0Yz5QkoL+uMe4Lc6kT6dwO6FD5wwfNMyT6WkhHAIGTuYaEUPqy9bRht/xD2Ab zqnzSfKkWL8VOEKQ2CckAbtoMWyE58D3I+dZQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=x53CNPYxfe/S1ARRzSc2WPXi8OS+UGTznDZZiEbMDLLb8+IV5+f1onRri7T7c/3iR5 hyNcsA89CogFlsEpvcqTO3asUr2wMD8DeeoEjvKQQqWMPfp5GhhFovto8qNm1El1LKFU nXo9zVf72ZOnOUUR+aKJYN+ScnfpvEHmjVGgI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.166.139 with SMTP id m11mr8360638iby.136.1279694314427; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 23:38:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.180.135 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jul 2010 23:38:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100720092644.28643f19aryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> <20100720093328.4f1bd5d0@scorpio> <20100720094609.02f88f0baryeh.friedman%gmail.com@flosoft.no-ip.biz> <20100720165003.42ce7fc7@scorpio> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 00:38:34 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Odhiambo Washington Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help with setting up a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 06:38:35 -0000 On 7/20/10, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Jerry wrote: >> On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:03:55 +0300 >> Odhiambo Washington articulated: >> >> >>> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Aryeh M. Friedman >>> wrote: >>> > On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:33:28 -0400 >>> > Jerry wrote: >>> > >>> >> On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:26:44 -0400 >>> >> Aryeh M. Friedman articulated: >>> >> >>> >> > I am a consultant and was retained by my client to setup qmail or >>> >> > exim on a VPS running 8.0-STABLE (i386). After setting up the DNS >>> >> > (A record and MX record) we have been unable to send or receive >>> >> > mail. The client has/had a working script for installing qmail on >>> >> > 7.1-STABLE but it seems to not work on 8.0-STABLE. They are using >>> >> > the same VPS provider who this 7.1-STABLE install script worked >>> >> > under. I have tried everything I can think of to make it work >>> >> > including asking obvious questions on -questions@. >>> >> > >>> >> > I informed the client that the task is likely beyond me capabilities >>> >> > but I would help recruit someone who would be able to do it at a >>> >> > reasonable fee paid to them (I am acting as a no cost middle man on >>> >> > this [I am helping the client for free since I was unable to get it >>> >> > done]). >>> >> > >>> >> > Please send any ideas and/or offers to do the job >>> >> >>> >> I would seriously suggest that you consider installing Postfix. It is >>> >> in the ports tree, is well maintained and works out of the box. The >>> >> Postfix forum will be glad to give you any advice you need for setting >>> >> up and securing your mail server. Qmail is no longer supported by its >>> >> author and can be a nightmare to maintain. >>> >> >>> > >>> > We had also tried sendmail and couldn't get that working either so I >>> > suspect it is a general config issue not a MTA one. (I have set >>> > sendmail up about 30 times in the past so I know a little bit about it) >>> >>> Exim is a very good choice. Forget the Postfix suggestions. It's >>> Sendmail's brother:-) >> >> At least Postfix is fully RFC compliant, as opposed to Exim. >> >> SEE: RFC 2034 (SMTP enhanced status codes), RFC 3461-4 (delivery status >> notifications), RFC 1652 (8-bit MIME including 8->7bit conversion) >> among others. > > I doubt anyone makes a choice on an MTA (or any other software) based > on it's RFC-compliance. > In my experience, it's normally boils down to: > > 1. It has the features that I want > 2. I can swim with it in times of toruble I for one like to know that it is RFC compliant. it's a reason RFCs are made, so there can be standardization... So yes, I do choose based on compliance. (anyone use Firefox over IE at work because Firefox "works better"?) "Did you get my email?" "no, but i get everyone elses, let's check the logs and find out why"