From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 20 11:40: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sage-american.com (sage-american.com [216.122.141.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6343037B401 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:40:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jacks@sage-american.com) Received: from sageone (ppp-208-191-234-249.dialup.crchtx.swbell.net [208.191.234.249]) by sage-american.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA26679; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:55:40 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010820125549.0111db68@mail.sage-american.com> X-Sender: jacks@mail.sage-american.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:55:49 -0500 To: Bill Moran , Jim Sander From: jacks@sage-american.com Subject: Re: the finer points of cvsup... Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3B814A67.D1B3CAA7@iowna.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ditto. I quite agree with everything Jim has said.... the monthly update increment makes most sense unless developing. At 01:35 PM 8.20.2001 -0400, Bill Moran wrote: >Jim Sander wrote: >> Is it "better" to take a bunch of "small bites" by updating once a day, >> or should I lean toward taking fewer "big bites" and update weekly? > >If you mean "better" for the servers/bandwidth, then "big bites" will be >better. Each time you do a cvsup it has to go through the listing/detailing >phase, which ties up bandwidth and resources on the server. The amount >of traffic caused by actual downloads will be the same whether you cvsup >every day or once a week, but the overhead will be ~7x worse if you do it >daily. > >> What's the story on '*default compress' - is it "better" to compress >> even on a fast connection, or does that overhead tax the cvsup server? > >The example cvsup files request that compression be disabled if speed is >T1 or faster. I'd assume that someone else has already done the math and >decided that the benefits of compression are negated with a link faster >than T1. > >> I want to be as kind to the cvsup servers as possible, am not in a big >> hurry, and have both CPU and bandwidth to spare at the time cvsup is going >> to run. But I also want to have "reasonably" current src, ports, and doc. >> If there's a burden to shoulder, I want it to be mine and not the cvsup >> server's - I've had near zero trouble with the server I target, and will >> do what I can to keep it that way. > >How often do you do upgrades? Personally, I only cvsup right before I'm >planning to update the system. Mind you, I update about once a month. >Ports are a different story. I think you could probably update your ports >tree daily/weekly and it would be a reasonable thing to do. Unless you don't >install/change your software often. >All of this changes if you plan on developing for FreeBSD, in which case >you probably need to cvsup daily. > >> Any examples of what people are doing, and most importantly why you're >> doing it that way, would be much appreciated. > >See above. In my personal case, I only cvsup when I'm planning to update. >I use that same theory for both ports and the base system. > >-Bill > >-- >"Where's the robot to pat you on the back?" > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Server Admin Sage-American http://www.sage-american.com jacks@sage-american.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message