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Date:      Tue, 28 Mar 1995 11:20:59 +0100 (BST)
From:      Paul Richards <paul@isl.cf.ac.uk>
To:        FreeBSD-hackers@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD hackers mailing list)
Subject:   Re: httpd as part of the system.
Message-ID:  <199503281021.LAA17819@isl.cf.ac.uk>
In-Reply-To: <2819.796380480@freefall.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Mar 28, 95 00:48:00 am

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In reply to Jordan K. Hubbard who said
> 
> > I really get scared when people start moving things like ncftp and lynx into
> > the /src tree.  Who the hell has time to keep everything tracked?  Who the
> 
> Well, let's be fair.  Things like ncftp moved in because we needed
> some sort of default ftp command that the installation framework could
> COUNT ON to do unattended ftps.  The release framework doesn't have
> provisions for dealing with pieces that need to be obtained from ports
> or packages, so..  If somebody has a yen to HELP with the install
> framework, trust me - we won't argue! :-)

I think ncftp will go away at sometime because it's a real pain. Not until
we write a replacement though.

> 
> > you needed it or not.  Frankly, I think a package-collection feature added
> > to the package tool would be cool... then I could specify an uber package
> > consisting of:
> 
> Indeed.  Now who's going to write the ueberpackage framework? :-)

I think the whole idea of system modules and packages needs a re-think. The
differentiation between the two is unnecessary. The main difference is that
system modules are b-maked and fall seamlessly into the src tree, whereas
ports do not. However, the mechanism for loading/unloading modules/packages
should be combined so there's one interface to the whole thing and then things
will be greatly simplified.

There'll still be the arguments about whether things should become an
integral part of the system or not...

-- 
  Paul Richards, FreeBSD core team member. 
  Internet: paul@FreeBSD.org,  URL: http://isl.cf.ac.uk/~paul/
  Phone: +44 1222 874000 x6646 (work), +44 1222 457651 (home)
  Dept. Mechanical Engineering, University of Wales, College Cardiff.



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