From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 18:24:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C122216A4CE for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:24:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from kientzle.com (h-66-166-149-50.SNVACAID.covad.net [66.166.149.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4ED43F93 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:24:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kientzle@acm.org) Received: from acm.org ([66.166.149.54]) by kientzle.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB22OQkX081835; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:24:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kientzle@acm.org) Message-ID: <3FCBF7D9.10609@acm.org> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 18:24:25 -0800 From: Tim Kientzle User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20031006 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Garrett Wollman References: <20031129011334.GC88553@madman.celabo.org> <20031201142737.GC99428@madman.celabo.org> <20031201175925.GC244@madman.celabo.org> <200312012250.hB1MoCMZ081007@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312012250.hB1MoCMZ081007@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NSS and PAM X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: kientzle@acm.org List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 02:24:32 -0000 Garrett Wollman wrote: > < >>The problem is that the authentication information needs to be stored >>somewhere, and the usual solution is to store it in the directory, > > ...which is usually the worst possible place. Please don't penalize > those of us with sensible authentication systems. Care to elaborate, Garrett? I've been following this discussion with some interest, and would like to see people elucidate their positions and concerns. Both DES and Jacques have made some interesting points so far. What exactly is your "sensible authentication system"? Why is the directory "usually the worst" for storing authentication information? What do you think are the correct fracture points and how do they relate to the existing PAM/NSS frameworks? Tim