From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 12 11:24:27 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA19960 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Nov 1995 11:24:27 -0800 Received: from ast.com (irvine.ast.com [165.164.128.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA19945 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 1995 11:24:24 -0800 Received: from fw.ast.com by ast.com with SMTP id AA15336 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 12 Nov 1995 11:25:42 -0800 Received: from nemesis by fw.ast.com with uucp (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0tEhlt-000085C; Sun, 12 Nov 95 13:08 CST Received: by nemesis.lonestar.org (Smail3.1.27.1 #19) id m0tEhh1-000J05C; Sun, 12 Nov 95 13:03 WET Message-Id: Date: Sun, 12 Nov 95 13:03 WET To: jkh@time.cdrom.com, current@freebsd.org From: uhclem%nemesis@fw.ast.com (Frank Durda IV) Sent: Sun Nov 12 1995, 13:03:50 CST Subject: Re: ISP state their FreeBSD concerns Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk [0]First off, I really have to wonder why Frank Durda went to what was [0]obviously a considerable effort to be anonymous. The message had no [0]signature and has been sent with a "From" of -current. Uh, sorry it wasn't meant to be *that* way. I was playing with some options of xmail for re-routing replies and this was the result. I see I also botched the sig inclusion. Serves me right for composing at goofy hours of the night, but I got going and wanted to finish before the scribbled notes on resturant napkins became a useless jumble. I really felt that any discussion of this should be where it can be seen, rather than just between select flamers. I tried to keep the comments as truthful and objective to the responses I have got from local ISPs. I entirely agree that these represent a tiny fraction of the potential user base for FreeBSD, but unfortunately, a lot of people ask them what *they* are using or what that recommend, and it is a lot like those "when we talk they listen" ads. Their word can influence interest (or the lack of it) in FreeBSD. So it would be nice if the ISPs were better informed on the state of FreeBSD. [0]Well, I'll certainly do my best to address these points, as I'm sure [0]will others, but it does beg the question: How do we get the [0]information back to them? If you're willing to act as a conduit, [0]great, otherwise it'll be something of a wasted effort.. Some are subscribers to the lists, others are getting copies of all replies from other routes, including me. They are watching and keen to hear our side of the story. They've heard the spin from the Linux group or from magazines with slants toward other systems. Frank Durda IV |"The Knights who say "LETNi" or uhclem%nemesis@fw.ast.com (Fastest Route)| demand... A SEGMENT REGISTER!!!" ...letni!rwsys!nemesis!uhclem |"A what?" ...decvax!fw.ast.com!nemesis!uhclem |"LETNi! LETNi! LETNi!" - 1983 Did it right this time!