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Date:      Sat, 8 Jul 1995 08:36:45 -0500 (CDT)
From:      Mike Pritchard <mpp@legarto.minn.net>
To:        jhs@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (Julian Stacey)
Cc:        dufault@hda.com, hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Proposal to change name of this list to a less embarrassing one
Message-ID:  <199507081336.IAA05416@mpp.minn.net>
In-Reply-To: <199507060852.KAA02604@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> from "Julian Stacey" at Jul 6, 95 10:52:03 am

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> 	- there's a Hackers Handbook,
> `Hacker' is an un-necessary liability to our fine Op System.
> 
> I guess people in the business of providing Unix like OSs to students &
> motivated individuals don't encounter much resistance, but I'm trying to 
> venture into new markets, where the people are less `op. system literate';
> here the word `Hacker' is a superfluous danger signal.

I don't really care what the group is called, but I thought I would
pass on something I just saw recently in comp.lang.c.  Some guy
in there was ranting about how "hackers" produce bad code, and
went on to list various C constructs that hackers use that
are bad.  He had some good examples of bad programming practices,
but I would simply say that the person using them was a poor
programmer, not a "hacker".

The Hackers Handbook is a good example of something some of the
less technical types may see/hear about and cause them to
have a less than a warm fuzzy feeling about the operating system.

I always try to point out the correct word to people when they
misuse "hacker" to describe people breaking into systems.  
Get it right and call them a criminal.
-- 
Mike Pritchard
mpp@legarto.minn.net
"Go that way.  Really fast.  If something gets in your way, turn"



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