From nobody Thu Aug 10 14:08:26 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RM80Y0rb3z4mKBy for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2023 14:08:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RM80Y0MfJz3Tmv; Thu, 10 Aug 2023 14:08:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1691676509; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=Qk+7uPCHc3jt3RNJIh3h9DEgz1MS6mXD67njYjut0k8=; b=YSZGvsg1kLZAs6Y7ptu2O54KFAPBctTC8DWBF1IH3ThNomdiHz/ZDYAywNSNHZET6YQdA4 SHA1lmMMOzfQSnqt9Ucchw4A09o6osieyyBNwxM/kWcDMeS1wG/+76b3ZtHrVMrFOlw6zg riI6mvj5lZEEePQ35X/hX4ZnDyaKCysdfu+tfX3cZvReFPUOxU7DpakiaZeK52yxCzHXcH TYmi82us1jkoZjn6+wq8plrperUI11PXlQnbqZNQrP8rUT57FAP6VpO4Dyyt8UKKYK+ade XWK3ze96hGOr5HbImZtBIN5fY7Fh8nVyFxgK5BYMkcnoyISmyv+1LmIqoAr0Fw== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1691676509; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=Qk+7uPCHc3jt3RNJIh3h9DEgz1MS6mXD67njYjut0k8=; b=N7QDN93q9fo5EzKVQrSdtRTCYICWOK+seDkBr/x+kzECyJ8nL76r7c8ZGoIuEP4yRzb+BS 31iQPddxelkMIroh3WE46O5NWaSaDWuBO/eBPj2NtZVR5ZRoB5wEY3a3wSXwZhOrcuo17B 8weqqlbXsO1OSzwiEYPiLQYt1tiwx3AE0Ri235VM6m/5pHqosPJuugaX7Hpqc+bGmBW0WT 5Ea/QjRt/WVs3nwuoAkQW9NzTn+ATxCWWCNQeCNHt4OkUUfPkr+hzfmtf/VTeDlsKgUhIs gGMAbloUEt91OBmMPwPTcy4p8q7HsNWNFb/veve+BylhI84+HknSoorvFBUbWg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1691676509; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=abWpMhxExVesFfagDVU9gFvy2GZeXT2Br5cgbRCm8kesoq+EuTlCI4MdPF3U2vMai7Qurq DCfUsQdlpAXJiW41NSBkuhsT7dvWUIHDb0JaNyplqzaSumLQFPxR9D1OomNr2f/rr0TLDt Cr8Ew9BrreiAxbgz+Y5hJFsBhDIPNiTrm4Mj0xkVV10v0orv4wKUFPriIgo8cWgtiYYKCW msSx19zKXosY2WJ2llaQU2Gvvyf/ijkf/h469l42dUDN+KGi5mSN1yD3bO+6tk1VIUUOiN pTjiaD6Z2A9np4VPANz1XIjAGXk4jz6gPSdH5/XUMfdzuPixTE2+niRDbW7v6A== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from ltc.des.no (unknown [IPv6:2001:4647:d671:0:36e8:94ff:feca:9834]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: des) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4RM80X5pyFz3j4; Thu, 10 Aug 2023 14:08:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@freebsd.org) Received: by ltc.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 88D591848F; Thu, 10 Aug 2023 16:08:26 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: Tomoaki AOKI Cc: David Wolfskill , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Has the update procedure changed? In-Reply-To: <20230810063214.1b694140e7c284e51154fe35@dec.sakura.ne.jp> (Tomoaki AOKI's message of "Thu, 10 Aug 2023 06:32:14 +0900") References: <7A0E604D-EF40-4F10-B597-F1F076507192@gmail.com> <20230809213822.950a3c337ec86c102dcbd235@dec.sakura.ne.jp> <20230810063214.1b694140e7c284e51154fe35@dec.sakura.ne.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (berkeley-unix) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 16:08:26 +0200 Message-ID: <86zg2zrnvp.fsf@ltc.des.no> List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tomoaki AOKI writes: > Yes. But if bsdinstall and freebsd-update automatically bootstrap > etcupdate if not yet done, newbies and casual users wouldn't be bitten. https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=3De9120a256075543376496fbd75949eed1= f13a887 DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@FreeBSD.org