From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 10 15:02:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABEAD106566C for ; Mon, 10 May 2010 15:02:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from royce.williams@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F60C8FC08 for ; Mon, 10 May 2010 15:02:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwj15 with SMTP id 15so582015gwj.13 for ; Mon, 10 May 2010 08:02:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=4C8ZU/pRCqTR2RWEA8GJ4/tbYW6SAbCiOPh5AbGr1a4=; b=qqN53YawbM/LoZ/WhgU5V7ymqwBfEbEr1pemwnQITBLUfgA8aWYw4MPqxY2mbDJ1BQ tsHP0FpeDG8SAIDvZnY7GuupcGSxhi254xT+NmfYN3CYtMtVNibGETs3xoxVtn6eDCNs dhjoKiTzAHJCINsNnHaoc8q3uY5UuooSeftck= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=iTJgdcmYFuCE3oNo4TSwMotkrVug3ojkOHdpDzeiv4srMUhxoli4Jlbj0/Ua10JL4I XSkqndfv9hvwaYDrfWix4pHa6bt8s2naxT5HGqLjHGaysa0ETw3ltHDpsXsJdd/7qJN7 LecWZ/A8IoBRbpEYvRtojzzU6N3A4zYK2EXIg= Received: by 10.150.14.20 with SMTP id 20mr6947608ybn.440.1273503740845; Mon, 10 May 2010 08:02:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.190.4 with HTTP; Mon, 10 May 2010 08:01:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100510020503.GA23941@shell.eskimo.com> From: Royce Williams Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 07:01:59 -0800 Message-ID: To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: FreeBSD Release 8.0 floppy images X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 15:02:22 -0000 On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 7:08 PM, pluknet wrote: > On 10 May 2010 06:05, Joseph Olatt wrote: > > As for floppies building, it was turned off intentionally starting from 8.0. > See http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revision&revision=188437 I'm guessing that this because of resource constraints (getting everything to fit)? I assume that if it was just that folks weren't using them, it would be easy to keep them. A few data points: * We have some older Dell DRAC systems that don't support PXE very well, but do support loading remote floppy images. * There are still folks in countries where computer hardware doesn't get refreshed as quickly as in the U.S., and floppies are still a viable install option. * When I'm not at $WORK, one of my hobbies is restoring old computers (Whistle Interjets, Qubes, etc.) the way that some people restore old cars -- with the twist of using modern OSes. Of course, they can run NetBSD :-), but freebsd-update is a killer feature for keeping slower systems patched. Of course, some of them don't support floppies, either. In practice, once the initial install is done, floppies aren't needed. And we can always pop out the drive, and put it in a system that supports CD booting and install from there. But it's more work. :-) Royce