From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 4 12:24:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9195A37B418 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2003 12:24:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17BA143F93 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2003 12:24:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (ru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) h34KOBgg087365 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 4 Apr 2003 23:24:12 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.12.9/8.12.8/Submit) id h34KOBlG087364; Fri, 4 Apr 2003 23:24:11 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 23:24:11 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Birk Message-ID: <20030404202411.GC82587@sunbay.com> References: <01C2FAE8.1CA187E0@ari@snafu.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TYecfFk8j8mZq+dy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <01C2FAE8.1CA187E0@ari@snafu.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: "stable@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: outdated files after make world X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 20:24:18 -0000 --TYecfFk8j8mZq+dy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 08:23:52PM +0200, Birk wrote: > > > 338 Mar 6 2002 /boot/loader.rc > > >=20 > > This is only installed if it does not exist, so you > > should update it manually when it changes. This has > > last changed in 1999. >=20 > IMHO this violates POLA. If it is vital and has changed it=20 > should be reinstalled. > It was just instinct that I haven't removed this file. >=20 Yes, I agree too, I just never found a time to request if it is safe to change. > > > 858 Mar 6 2002 /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/mach/_h2ph_pre.ph > >=20 > > Perl install just uses the source dates. >=20 > I forgot to mention that I check the ctime, not mtime. > If the files were copied with the mtime preserved the ctime should=20 > have changed anyway. >=20 > > > 5930 Mar 6 2002 /usr/include/values.h > >=20 > > Headers are installed with -C option of install(1), >=20 > | -C Copy the file. If the target file already exists and the files > | are the same, then don't change the modification time of the tar- > | get. >=20 > This is ambiguos. Does that mean the file isn't copied at all, or=20 > is it copied with the mtime preserved (and thus changes the ctime)? >=20 There used to be a bug. It is fixed in 5.0-CURRENT: : -C Copy the file. If the target file already exists and the files : are the same, then don't change the modification time of the tar- : get. If the target's file flags and mode need not to be changed, : the target's inode change time is also unchanged. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age --TYecfFk8j8mZq+dy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+jenrUkv4P6juNwoRApamAJ9/sjQ5EBmYSMu4RnXpwqPTa6baQACfd5W6 SRot8VDMqCrnv+hwf2fkAKM= =0abA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TYecfFk8j8mZq+dy--