From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 13 12:26:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C55FB37B408; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from simoeon.sentex.net (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f8DJQ4X82467; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 15:26:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010913151657.05525560@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 15:19:56 -0400 To: Jordan Hubbard From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: I'll wait for a solid 4.4-RELEASE -- a month, if necessary Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20010913113128A.jkh@freebsd.org> References: <200109131728.LAA01874@lariat.org> <200109131728.LAA01874@lariat.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:31 AM 9/13/01 -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: >People need to enumerate the list of problems they believe are still >"show stoppers", preferably the people in charge of those subsystems >so that I also know it's hard evidence being cited and not simply "I >read something on the -stable list and it alarmed me." The expire bug in ftpd and sshd. i.e. they let expired users login despite being set to be expired. To me thats a nasty security hole, but I guess not a show stopper from the decision makers that be. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=28311 ---Mike >I'm all for releasing a rock-solid product too or 4.4-RELEASE would >already be up for FTP access, but I can't delay it based on rumor and >supposition, I need solid evidence that something is a show-stopper >and I need some sort of ETA for a fix since otherwise we're just >holding the release up indefinitely with no end in sight. Thanks. > >- Jordan > > > Just reviewed the -STABLE mailing list, and it sounds as if there are still > > too many problems to make me confident about installing the release if > it is > > rushed. This isn't a commercial product.... PLEASE do not ship it > before it's > > rock solid. Otherwise, we will wait until 4.5 for systems that need > FreeBSD's > > unique features and install OpenBSD or NetBSD on some of the others. > > > > --Brett Glass > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message