From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 19 0:41:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39CCB14D66 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 00:41:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marko@uk.radan.com) Received: from [158.152.75.22] (helo=uk.radan.com) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10Z8e0-00031J-0B; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:39:04 +0000 Organisation: Radan Computational Ltd., Bath, UK. Phone: +44-1225-320320 Fax: +44-1225-320311 Received: from support-3.uk.radan.com (support-3 [193.114.228.220]) by uk.radan.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id IAA01512; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:38:28 +0100 Received: from uk.radan.com by support-3.uk.radan.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA01235; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:38:27 +0100 Message-ID: <371ADD3D.227AAC63@uk.radan.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:37:33 +0100 From: Mark Ovens Organization: Radan Computational Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.3_U1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Shawn Leas Cc: Andrew Johns , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Jonathan Chen Subject: Re: chown/chmod doesn't work on FAT slices References: <19990419002810.D965@marder-1> <371A6E34.44F54CE@TurnAround.com.au> <19990418184526.A6297@ixion.honeywell.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Shawn Leas wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 19, 1999 at 09:43:48AM +1000, Andrew Johns wrote: > > The dumb M$ world doesn't support ownership of files, hence > > there are no permissions to change. The partition is mounted > > and owned by root to prevent *other* users from trashing your > > M$ partition. > > > > ie: You have to be root to access M$ partitions if you want to > > change/create files on them. > > No you don't. Just chown/chmod the mountpoint, and permissions are > inhereted. > Jonathan Chen added: > > To the best of my knowledge, this has *always* been the case, since > FAT file-systems have no support for multi-users. NTFS does - maybe you're > confusing the two? Doh! yes. The owner/perms of the mountpoint. I've just added a new HD and done a new install of FreeBSD. Previously I've just upgraded. I bet if I look at the backup tape of the old system I'll find I changed the owner and/or perms of the mountpoint and I would have done that so long ago that I've forgotten (the memory fades with age). I did read the manpage, but it's a little ambiguous. It says the *default* owner/group/perms are set to those of the mountpoint directory, it doesn't mention that you can't change them (I know that FAT can't store this info, I was under the impression that were stored elsewhere, (memory?), sort of virtual owner/perms). Anyway, thanks for the help. > -- Shawn > <=========== America Held Hostage ===========> > Day 2279 for the poor and the middle class. > Day 2298 for the rich and the dead. > 643 days remaining in the Raw Deal. > <============================================> -- FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~markov _______________________________________________________________ Mark Ovens, CNC Apps Engineer, Radan Computational Ltd. Bath UK CAD/CAM solutions for Sheetmetal Working Industry mailto:marko@uk.radan.com http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message