From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Fri Feb 15 08:06:51 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B1B214F3A7E for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 08:06:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hausen@punkt.de) Received: from kagate.punkt.de (kagate.punkt.de [217.29.33.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CDD4E8422A for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 08:06:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hausen@punkt.de) Received: from hugo10.ka.punkt.de (hugo10.ka.punkt.de [217.29.44.10]) by gate2.intern.punkt.de with ESMTP id x1F86aLK051390; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 09:06:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from [217.29.44.250] ([217.29.44.250]) by hugo10.ka.punkt.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id x1F86avK086425; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 09:06:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from hausen@punkt.de) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Subject: Re: Binary update to -STABLE? And if so, what do I get? From: "Patrick M. Hausen" In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 09:06:36 +0100 Cc: Pete French , FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3B4C0FF6-32C2-4DBB-BE5B-8C5F2EB59430@punkt.de> References: <80937c57-7757-3c70-5198-4da12c4f23d9@denninger.net> <20190213134939.GO2748@home.opsec.eu> <29563d3e-608d-591e-89bb-bf428b52bdc8@denninger.net> <1656e7f5-ef76-55d8-f46c-416223c5f975@ingresso.co.uk> To: Kevin Oberman X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: CDD4E8422A X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of hausen@punkt.de designates 217.29.33.131 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=hausen@punkt.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.19 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.995,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:217.29.32.0/20]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[punkt.de]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mailin.pluspunkthosting.de,mailin.pluspunkthosting.de]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.78)[-0.776,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[131.33.29.217.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16188, ipnet:217.29.32.0/20, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.61)[ipnet: 217.29.32.0/20(-1.68), asn: 16188(-1.35), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 08:06:51 -0000 Good morning, > Am 14.02.2019 um 19:11 schrieb Kevin Oberman : > Far and away the biggest is the requirement to build from sources. = It's not > a big deal for me, but if I still had many systems to deal with, that = would > be a pain. > [=E2=80=A6] > The bottom line is that the only real reasons I see for not running = stable > is the lack of binary updates, and issues with systems being slightly = out > of sync if all are not updated to the same SVN revision at all times. = Those > are very big reasons for many. We build from sources centrally, then zfs send/receive /usr/src and /usr/obj to all of the machines, then just do the install(kernel|world) part on all of them. Kind regards Patrick --=20 punkt.de GmbH Internet - Dienstleistungen - Beratung Kaiserallee 13a Tel.: 0721 9109-0 Fax: -100 76133 Karlsruhe info@punkt.de http://punkt.de AG Mannheim 108285 Gf: Juergen Egeling