From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 18 17:19:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 193C516A417; Sat, 18 Aug 2007 17:19:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bright@elvis.mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0563013C49D; Sat, 18 Aug 2007 17:19:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bright@elvis.mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1192) id 5071E1A4D7C; Sat, 18 Aug 2007 10:17:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 10:17:38 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Pawel Jakub Dawidek Message-ID: <20070818171738.GB90381@elvis.mu.org> References: <20070818120056.GA6498@garage.freebsd.pl> <20070818142337.GW90381@elvis.mu.org> <20070818150028.GD6498@garage.freebsd.pl> <20070818155041.GY90381@elvis.mu.org> <20070818161449.GE6498@garage.freebsd.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070818161449.GE6498@garage.freebsd.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Lockless uidinfo. X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 17:19:19 -0000 * Pawel Jakub Dawidek [070818 09:14] wrote: > On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 08:50:41AM -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > * Pawel Jakub Dawidek [070818 07:59] wrote: > > > Yes, to lookup uidinfo you need to hold uihashtbl_mtx mutex, so once you > > > hold it and ui_ref is 0, noone will be able to reference it, because it > > > has to wait to look it up. > > > > And the field doesn't need to be volatile to prevent cached/opportunitic > > reads? > > The only chance of something like this will be the scenario below: > > thread1 (uifind) thread2 (uifree) > ---------------- ---------------- > refcount_release(&uip->ui_ref)) > /* ui_ref == 0 */ > mtx_lock(&uihashtbl_mtx); > refcount_acquire(&uip->ui_ref); > /* ui_ref == 1 */ > mtx_unlock(&uihashtbl_mtx); > mtx_lock(&uihashtbl_mtx); > if (uip->ui_ref > 0) { > mtx_unlock(&uihashtbl_mtx); > return; > } > > Now, you suggest that ui_ref in 'if (uip->ui_ref > 0)' may still have > cached 0? I don't think it is possible, first refcount_acquire() uses > read memory bariers (but we may still need ui_ref to volatile for this > to make any difference) and second, think of ui_ref as a field protected > by uihashtbl_mtx mutex in this very case. > > Is my thinking correct? I don't know, that's why I was asking you. :) -- - Alfred Perlstein