Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 09:20:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> To: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> Cc: "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" <freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Updating reboot's default Message-ID: <202206211620.25LGKvbN053809@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> In-Reply-To: <CANCZdfqm22kUCgVseR%2BF9nx5B84r5-gMUhQBBRwzFtxTmhYg2w@mail.gmail.com>
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[ Charset UTF-8 unsupported, converting... ] > On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 8:01 AM Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote: > > > 15 or 20 years ago, we talked about changing the default for reboot from > > 'right now' to being safe shutdown. There were arguments made against it > > due to tiny appliances and such. > > > > Time has past, and this oddity has persisted. It's time to revisit that > > decision. > > > > I'd propose that we keep 'fastboot' and 'fasthalt' having the immediate > > behavior. However, the 'reboot' command will switch from '-q' behavior to > > '-r' behavior. > > > > I'll update the man page, etc to reflect these new defaults. Most of the > > systems I've been on in the last 10-15 years have had some flavor of 'alias > > reboot reboot -r' in their login scripts and/or made shell scripts that did > > this. This will match what everybody else is doing, and will likely result > > in less astonishment rather than more, even though it changes a > > long-standing default behavior. > > > > Comments? > > > > I slightly misspoke here. I'm proposing we change the default to like > 'shutodwn -r' not to re-root the system... Sorry for any confusion. Retract my prior objection based on reboot -r being a re-root. BUTT: shutdown -r requires an argument of "time" And what would the time be? aka if you alias reboot "shutdown -r", when I type reboot I'll end up getting a usage error. This is gona cause some confusion, perhaps you mean to alias reboot "shutdown -r now"? -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org
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