From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 27 10:15:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BCE91065673 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 10:15:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@xtaz.co.uk) Received: from mail.xtaz.co.uk (tao.xtaz.co.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:294::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 567328FC14 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 10:15:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.xtaz.co.uk (tao.xtaz.co.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:294::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.xtaz.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7942CDEF24C; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 11:15:20 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 11:15:20 +0100 From: Matt Smith To: In-Reply-To: References: <2d4dfcb2637f4d0e9671899538b603d9@xtaz.co.uk> Message-ID: X-Sender: matt@xtaz.co.uk User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.8.1 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 9.1 RELENG_9 Unable to cleanly dismount root partition on shutdown X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 10:15:21 -0000 On 2012-08-27 10:25, clay@milos.co.za wrote: > I'm far from anything near an expert on file systems but I'd suggest > you remove softupdates and leave journaling on. > tunefs -n disable > There's no need to have both on and although I agree that both SHOULD > work together there's no reason to have them on together. It will > only > slow down writes to the file system. Effectively soft updates was a > go-between before journalin was introduced. > Really? This is SU+J journalling that I'm using. Not gjournal. Surely SU+J does require softupdates to be on as it's part of the same thing? Output from tunefs -p: tunefs: soft updates: (-n) enabled tunefs: soft update journaling: (-j) enabled tunefs: gjournal: (-J) disabled