From owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Tue Oct 10 22:31:31 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B213EE3F0A1 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 22:31:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pathiaki2@yahoo.com) Received: from nm17-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm17-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.110]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D6B86FBCE for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 22:31:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pathiaki2@yahoo.com) Received: from [98.138.100.117] by nm17.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Oct 2017 22:28:16 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.125] by tm108.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Oct 2017 22:28:16 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Oct 2017 22:28:16 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 143752.67804.bm@smtp204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: m2K9D70VM1kLIqRNbx95QWgpZWgDlEAm_7KhtpcYq4Wr8Bi .SKZ44ErHNHWuznbpX8.P.BR49qV.YlsVM19EFNFyFsBWLN8.nURUvLJkuVJ bfj4i8KAJToXSr99iROCAvP.QTH_vGu.dQFLGhL2fJFl2k0nZBzXlE1YfsM8 oEdqQbDrMHpbewlVcimP1qyhDjd2bpIw5qhvRp5JaCN9m0..GnIWoOPBZOqC 9wA_3kXHvdgV.l1X8yK02d5y1Vxm9pyGnptF.E.CNRUpZ9F8X0vkA8.24vsk .QSAJb7fAU6Q7EU5fTd9XJBul.uDZLynrHJqxg7uUeKRrZx39b0hx5cFdMcw _LGXB4BVdAzDwZielA5mcnFs.tmwpJkZO.i52mdGEhvp0eh5iwET7nzW6Sj. 6cPQ6QMGusSB.E6HE0xsaFRp16xppKM0jTwwrMLc.FzQKq0cjX_3T23MgGTa ZKbR05qKp4PLWxJvZu0YvFJbNaoK1oj0XF3JrHKGPca0RvEU.CS3inEXEy7w kUrAIhvSTyNcQGg-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: h3Xqg6.swBC0yI913RMMwp94grO_cg-- Subject: Re: intro To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org References: <696fb5ea-e1bf-d7c2-004a-eb4eb2af43d7@nomadlogic.org> From: Paul Pathiakis Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 18:28:06 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <696fb5ea-e1bf-d7c2-004a-eb4eb2af43d7@nomadlogic.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 22:31:31 -0000 +1 on TrueOS.... they are doing a fine job. It's on my gf (50+) desktop and her mother's (80+) desktop... for the last 5 years.... They LOVE IT!!! P On 10/10/2017 16:51, Pete Wright wrote: > > > On 10/10/2017 13:29, Tom Rushworth wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> A few quick words to say where I'm coming from: >> >> I'm a long time C programmer, mostly userland, but I have done some >> kernel work. I was doing Linux USB drivers in the early 2000's, and >> I tinkered with the NetBSD serial driver way back when serial ports >> were actually useful. I wrote my first serious C program in the late >> 1970s. >> >> I'm a FreeBSD desktop user, driven out of MacOS by the marketroids, >> and driven out of Linux by systemd :). >> >> I recently purchased a new desktop machine that turns out to have an >> Intel Iris Pro P6300 (Broadwell GT3e) graphics system. It came with >> Linux Mint 18.1 Cinnamon, which manages the screen very nicely, so >> the Linux driver is good enough. I ran into issues with ssh within >> hours of starting up, and I'm just not interested in digging through >> yet another (foolish) system administration issue involving systemd >> to sort it out. >> >> I tried FreeBSD 11.1, but the i915 driver there isn't quite up to the >> job. I've looked at the various FreeBSD i915 websites and >> discussions, but can't easily sort out where the current focus is. >> >> What I'd like from the list is advice on where to start :). I'm >> willing to test pre-built stuff, or build it myself, or even work on >> the code, but everything I looked at seemed to have ground to a halt >> about a year ago. >> >> So, where to begin? > > I'd suggest taking a look at TrueOS to see if the updated i915 support > in there offers you a better X experience. > > https://www.trueos.org/ > > TrueOS is FreeBSD with some nice prebuilt additions for desktops and > laptops. They even have a live image that should allow you to verify > X is working as expected before you install it. > > If you are wanting to run vanilla FreeBSD and don't mind periodic > instability you can also run 12-CURRENT and install the > "drm-next-kmod" pkg. Although depending on how much time you want to > put into hacking on things TrueOS may be an easier entry point for you. > > HTH! > -pete >