From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 25 15:29:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F7D816A716 for ; Thu, 25 May 2006 15:29:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from pip.tenebras.com (pip.tenebras.com [216.27.179.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E4D643D55 for ; Thu, 25 May 2006 15:29:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: (qmail 61808 invoked from network); 25 May 2006 15:29:06 -0000 Received: from daggoo.tenebras.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (192.168.188.60) by pip.tenebras.com with SMTP; 25 May 2006 15:29:06 -0000 Message-ID: <4475CD42.2010509@tenebras.com> Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 08:29:06 -0700 From: Michael Sierchio User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Poul-Henning Kamp References: <2538.1148556253@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: <2538.1148556253@critter.freebsd.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 25 May 2006 16:08:08 +0000 Cc: small@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's embedded agenda X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 15:29:12 -0000 Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > For smaller systems, an additive approach would make more sense Amen. For larger systems, too, IMHO. I've been saying this for years, but even those things which we think of as necessary for most installs (MTA, DNS, toolchain) should be packages. The task of paring down what's in /bin /sbin /usr/bin /usr/sbin, followed by removing anything in /usr/lib that isn't reported as a dependency by ldd, has been a constant tedium.