From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 23 12:32:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from goblin.apana.org.au (goblin.apana.org.au [203.3.126.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B45037B400 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:32:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by goblin.apana.org.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA09560; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 06:29:36 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: from dougy.apana.org.au(203.3.126.131), claiming to be "dougy" via SMTP by goblin.apana.org.au, id smtpdJk9558; Wed Jan 24 06:29:30 2001 Message-ID: <007501c0857b$30785d00$837e03cb@dougy> From: "Doug Young" To: "Y" , References: <005b01c084e7$051ccfe0$844285ca@client1> <3A6D9AD0.A408B578@home.com> <002c01c0852a$1d0a5170$837e03cb@dougy> <921331965.20010123031256@home.com> Subject: Re: Re[2]: AMD Duron Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 06:29:28 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Various problems, generally of the "tearing hair out" variety ..... spontaneous reboots are common with WinNT, as are really stupid installation "features" with Win2000 (gets started normally then "loses" the (IDE) CD drive. I've had no end of weird hardware conflicts with both WinNT & Win2000 that can never be properly resolved, & the uncertain lifetime of the CPU is a concern (they don't appear to have anything like the life of Intel ones) I can't imagine overclocking the things ... they don't last much more than a year in standard form anyway !!!! (and YES the ones I've tried all had heatsink paste / bigger fans / blah / blah / blah) Actually we DID have an AMD in a FreeBSD box used as a news server ...... well it was built & commissioned but it never did work for longer than a day before crashing. Every component of the system was replaced (several times over / various breeds) without making the slightest difference. It was only when the CPU was replaced by a proper Intel that the problems disappeared. Since then we'll never have another of those disasters in the place ... none of the Intel sytems have given unusual hardware problems like those experienced with the AMD one. The problems I've had are mostly "off topic" for this list as they don't concern FreeBSD directly, however a number of enquiries talk about dual booting so thats why I reported my experiences. Given the apparently "features" of AMD that I've seen with other operating systems I can't see the point in using them in FreeBSD. Judging from the email addresses of those who swear AMD chips are the bees knees, they are probably mostly gameplayers. As I said in an earlier posting I have no interest whatever in that area ..... however I'll need to be convinced that AMD have lifted their game considerably before I'll use another one in a business environment. > on a net i administer we have two small offices as parts of a > MAN that we run on Durons plus one TBird MS SQL 7 server > machine on MSI and DFI boards. 38 NT 4 workstations and one > server: no AMD specific problems whatsoever. this home machine > is also Duron 600(512 RAM) running FreeBSD, Linux and W2k Pro the only > problems i noticed with Win are the same we have with Pentiums > as well. What troubles do you experience with AMD ? I am > asking, because we are contemplating to lay a few larger LANs > out using it. > > TIA > -- > Best regards, > Y > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message