From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Feb 20 20: 3:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FD9737B400 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 20:03:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool0050.cvx22-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.198.50] helo=mindspring.com) by snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16dkRk-0003Es-00; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 20:03:05 -0800 Message-ID: <3C74716E.E36286FF@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 20:02:54 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Danny J. Zerkel" Cc: Aleksander Rozman - Andy , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Clearcase and FreeBSD References: <20020217161249.D0B2B3235@ns1.rwwa.com> <5.0.2.1.0.20020220214519.02b98280@213.161.0.10> <200202210204.g1L245H20108@clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Danny J. Zerkel" wrote: > Maybe cvs is an academic toy. Most real development requires a real > configuration management system. Why do you think there is work being done > on FreeBSD in Perforce? Frankly, it's because CVS only permits a single line of concurrent developement, and it's a limiting tool; but CVSup is CVS-centric and fails with P4, and P4 costs money as a barrier to adoption for FreeBSD, if the project were to cut over to it, so there's understandable backpressure against using it for the main repository. > The sooner FreeBSD and Linux can escape the clutches > of cvs, the better. Linux doesn't use CVS. It doesn't use source management software at all, right now; Linus has only recently got around to experimenting with Bitkeeper. No matter how you slice it, your tools constrain your work; FreeBSD has a two tier core/committer split, and a barrier to entry for casual patch submission because of CVS' single line of developement, and GNATS/send-pr, respectively. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message