From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 6 21:52:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC11214D7D for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 21:52:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrsn@ANDRSN.STANFORD.EDU) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA02617; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 21:49:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 21:49:07 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson To: wonko@entropy.tmok.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: let's get something straight. In-Reply-To: <199912070508.AAA92241@entropy.tmok.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 7 Dec 1999, Brian Hechinger wrote: > i'm not some unix newbie. i've been doing sysadmin work for 10 years. > i asked a legitimate question and i don't think that being told to go look > it up was an appropriate response. i asked here for a reason. > > REASON: I want documentation about real-world differences. benchmarks, > direct comparisons (i ran FreeBSD and Linux side by side and this is > what happened, whatever) go search the web for FreeBSD vs. Linux. > 75% of it is religion, and the other 25% is "it's better because > i say so." but no proof. no documentation. > > i need to be able to argue this case in front of a very clueful administration. > these guys aren't just some suits who like pretty pie charts. these guys > are software engineers. they know how this stuff works. they just don't > know anything about FreeBSD and i don't think, "we should run freebsd cause > it's cool." from me will change their minds. > > maybe i should have prefaced it with something to that effect, but i didn't > and i apologize for that. however, i don't feel that getting jumped on was an > apropriate resonse. > > i won't hold this against anybody, i'm not mad at anybody, i'm just upset that > this is the attitude here. don't alienate possible users of FreeBSD, they > are only helping the cause. > > -wonko I think there may be some sites that have such comparisons. You might ask on the freebsd-advocacy mailing list. However, I also think the ability to rebuild the system from source as a means of upgrading is attractive. Depending on what users are doing, this can often be done in multi-user mode and down-time limited to the time it takes to reboot the system (after building and installing a new kernel, of course). The FreeBSD third-party software management is also, I think, better then that of linux systems, but I imagine some linux users would prefer what they have. FreeBSD's ports system handles dependencies very well and makes it possible to configure software before the final build as well. Annelise To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message