From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 11:26:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A21437B401 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 11:26:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4044D43F75 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 11:26:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.12.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h53IQeBA022788; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 21:26:40 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee) Received: from localhost (narvi@localhost)h53IQdkY022785; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 21:26:39 +0300 (EEST) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 21:26:39 +0300 (EEST) From: Narvi To: Sheldon Hearn In-Reply-To: <20030602093951.GA84604@starjuice.net> Message-ID: <20030603205147.D40030-100000@haldjas.folklore.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Native JDK with libthr/libkse X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 18:26:43 -0000 On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > On (2003/06/01 23:53), Narvi wrote: > > > > The absence of credible Java support in FreeBSD has lost us significant > > > penetration in the past, and it would be disastrous if the perceptions > > > of the past shaped the future. > > > > credible rather sounds like 'comes on the installation cd, doesn't have > > significantly more bugs than linux/solaris/xxx version' 8-( > > And I think we'll get there. > I would really hope so, its increasingly a barrier. > I'm currently doing some Java development on a FreeBSD-CURRENT > workstation using a native jdk14. It's good enough for testing > components in a J2EE application server (JBoss), and performance is > comparable to that seen on an equivalent Windows workstation. > java is not all just j2ee, though its an increasingly important niche. The developer side is probably in the short term more important than the number of servers deployed using it. > Would I use FreeBSD as a production J2EE server reliant on 1.4.1? No. > But the time is coming, so don't write FreeBSD off just yet. > oh, i'm not writing off freebsd, its just not as ready in this regard as competition. Running production j2ee servers is a level above having a useful / credible java story - it would probably be something you'd do on 5.3 with a good jdk. > Ciao, > Sheldon. >