From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 19:01:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C2C71065670 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:01:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2F4B8FC0A for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:01:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (ethic.thought.org [10.47.0.230]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o2AJ1Hou065487; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:01:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 kline@thought.org; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:01:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:01:17 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Adam Vande More Message-ID: <20100310190117.GB65190@thought.org> References: <20100309191916.GA55827@thought.org> <4B96E3CA.7050906@hdk5.net> <20100310033452.GA2223@thought.org> <6201873e1003092004y5e1a7c5and97c8eb849619961@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6201873e1003092004y5e1a7c5and97c8eb849619961@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, FH_DATE_PAST_20XX autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ethic.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , Al Plant Subject: Re: "tao" suddenly died X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:01:23 -0000 On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 10:04:26PM -0600, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > Aloha Al and thanks for responding. {god this has been a > > long day... . ............} > > > > Well, long-story-short, the most unepect thing happened: a > > power surge. I did not realize that my printer was also off > > until hours later. A friend helped me trace the problem and > > reset my surgge-protector. ---It is worth noting that BEFORE > > I got my battery [UPS], when things were dead or suddenly > > went dead, i knew right away to check the surge-protector. > > > > nutshell: things are almost back. it'll be only an hour > > before everything is back. > > > > still, this is a warning to get back on the ball and start > > looking for a new desktop. > > > > i would be much obliged for ideas on what kind of dell to buy > > next. i say 'dell' because i would like to make life simple > > and eventually have one kind of box. (i have three tower > > computers: one is my DNS/mail/web server; one is my pfSense > > firewall; one is my laptop. i COULD use the server as a > > desktop, but that would be too much of a risk! > > > > so:: should i be looking for a dual or quad? ----i am biased > > toward intel because i think the AMD requires more juice. [[my > > only linux server --long dead-- seemed to suck 100w to 107w as > > a minimum.]] > > > > suggestions? > > > > I don't really think much of Dell consumer level products or support. While > they aren't the worst out there, it still doesn't make it very compelling > for me. Depending on your resources(money) you might consider something > like this: WEll, frankly, _cost_ is less of an issue considering all the grief, &c. i think I've built [custom ordred] more and better systems than the Dells and HPs. > > http://www.ixsystems.com/apollo I'll look this up when I am using a GUI mailer. > > While more money than you'd probably spend with dell, here's a couple > reasons to consider it further. > > 1. Out the Box compatibility > 2. Great hardware support/warranty service > 3. Vendor backing of your OS > 4. Long term upgradability, this will serve you better than any emachine. > 5. ixsystems is a large supporter of FreeBSD > > I believe the TCO of something like that is lower than most alternatives. > > One further thought is I don't see a lot sense in the requirement "must be a > dell, cause the other ones I have are dell" given the amount of machines you > run. To me, it would make more sense to standardize on something like cpu, > so that you could run one as a build system/package repository. I know that > settling on one vendor generally means you only need one source for warranty > work, but with stickers on cases and online accounts this isn't such an > issue anymore. > I would like to establish a history with one vendor, so your feedback makes sense. What I haven't decided on yet in whether to go with a dual-core or quad-. mY current desktop is a 2.4GHz and has always seemed slow when I've running more than five tasks. Strange. The new dual-core server is like greased lightening ... and extremely lightly loaded. gary > > -- > Adam Vande More > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix