From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 17:14:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9895C91; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 17:14:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x22f.google.com (mail-ie0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22f]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 676DE9F2; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 17:14:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f175.google.com with SMTP id c12so539653ieb.34 for ; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 09:14:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=jfd3iPHkxta5RlwCOHNANIY1KdUu54M7dkl8ptfxI4g=; b=LlDh0wNudhSI8nC8zZ/r3gksvB2scLB1YRlTJabmOf5AdS8HDn6u409DPfwclggbXH RHJbYJ81tgDpemX+ViFqIaLSV4DDRSCNSp0Py3Pq3YDsVj9vX67YqDe8UiVG620xuoGS LBPZiqn3WP0QU/aIM65RcVhvTBGRkrUKrIv4Z6V/AYyUJSeF+NDDkEkiUyZ9h1C7B0Sg Fy+1HFr0z8beSkUKF7MBJ0DPk1fKdmqNtDxF6OIy/YmngSIerTZTczNh2etu1bC/t02e 4fEXkxP/HDzTE7qZsxK19FwABjbTznsD0cYHvoVnfuhQCcip+CL1Wt8EyH1eXw0Kb6PS SZYA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.178.10 with SMTP id cu10mr14827029igc.75.1360084451456; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 09:14:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.16.73 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 09:14:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.16.73 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 09:14:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201302051158.55117.jhb@freebsd.org> References: <201302051439.r15EdcE7011203@svn.freebsd.org> <201302051145.40104.jhb@freebsd.org> <201302051158.55117.jhb@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 17:14:11 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r246362 - head/games/fortune/datfiles From: Chris Rees To: John Baldwin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, Benjamin Kaduk , svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, Dag-Erling SmXXrgrav X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 17:14:12 -0000 On 5 Feb 2013 17:01, "John Baldwin" wrote: > > On Tuesday, February 05, 2013 11:51:00 am Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:45 AM, John Baldwin wrote: > > > > > On Tuesday, February 05, 2013 9:39:38 am Dag-Erling SmXXrgrav wrote: > > > > Author: des > > > > Date: Tue Feb 5 14:39:37 2013 > > > > New Revision: 246362 > > > > URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/246362 > > > > > > > > Log: > > > > Remove political propaganda > > > > > > > > Modified: > > > > head/games/fortune/datfiles/fortunes-o.real > > > > > > *sigh* > > > > > > I'm sure there are other quotes that people who do not share your political > > > persuasion might find propaganda or offensive, etc. Censorship and freedom > > > of speech is quite a sticky widget, and I think the only truly sane policy > > > is that fortune files are append-only (unless we outright remove them and > > > that seems excessive). And new things should have a very high bar to be > > > added to fortune. Perhaps we should move fortunes-o to ports entirely? > > > > > > > I am more concerned about the insta-MFC than the removal per se. > > Only security or legal issues are cause to go under 3 days, was my > > impression. > > Yes, the insta-MFC is also not appropriate, esp. for something that you know > is going to raise eyebrows when it is committed. Having to debate this sort > of thing in public on mailing lists is also distinctly unhelpful and very > distracting from productive work. Also, I'd like to preemptively ask > developers to refrain from any further commits to the fortunes datfiles for > the time being as the last thing we need is a commit war over this sort of > thing. Moving the -o file to ports as you suggested is probably the best idea. Or simply allowing people to fetch their own.... I don't see why we should have trash installed by default on a professional operating system; we have higher standards in other areas. Chris