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Date:      Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:57:26 -0800
From:      Ludwig Pummer <ludwigp@bigfoot.com>
To:        questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   off-topic: invalid IP in use
Message-ID:  <3.0.3.32.19980324155726.0073f150@mail.plstn1.sfba.home.com>

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I was at school, telnetted into home and ran a traceroute just out of
curiosity. I got some interesting results: there is a 172.16.4.1 computer
out there, between @Home and Netcom's network.

FreeBSD 2.2.5's traceroute
traceroute to 205.187.104.208 (205.187.104.208), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  cr1-hfc1.plstn1.sfba.home.net (24.1.82.1)  15.156 ms  29.179 ms  19.742 ms
 2  r1-fe2-0-0-100bt.frmt1.sfba.home.net (24.1.80.1)  8.153 ms  6.675 ms
7.549
ms
 3  * * *
 4  bb1-fe0-0-100bt.rdc1.sfba.home.net (24.0.0.2)  8.850 ms  12.332 ms
9.726 ms
 5  172.16.4.1 (172.16.4.1)  11.799 ms  12.710 ms  9.429 ms
 6  mae-west.netcom.net (198.32.136.15)  120.975 ms  483.541 ms  16.856 ms
 7  h4-0-4-sjx-ca-gw1.netcom.net (163.179.233.213)  47.618 ms  307.925 ms
13.84
7 ms
 8  t3-1.ple-ca-gw1.netcom.net (163.179.219.4)  81.190 ms  94.642 ms *
 9  ple-ca-gw6.netcom.net (163.179.20.21)  18.132 ms  27.154 ms  29.499 ms
10  205.187.70.2 (205.187.70.2)  34.307 ms  48.218 ms  46.470 ms
11  205.187.70.4 (205.187.70.4)  52.383 ms  37.846 ms  49.410 ms
12  205.187.70.5 (205.187.70.5)  32.057 ms  44.993 ms  40.850 ms
13  205.187.114.147 (205.187.114.147)  30.415 ms  48.641 ms  46.292 ms
14  205.187.104.208 (205.187.104.208)  61.071 ms  43.405 ms  39.119 ms

DOS's tracert (from a Win95 machine going through natd on inet)
Tracing route to 205.187.104.208 over a maximum of

  1   <10 ms     1 ms     1 ms  inet [172.16.1.5]
  2    24 ms    19 ms    19 ms  cr1-hfc1.plstn1.sf
  3    13 ms    10 ms    13 ms  r1-fe2-0-0-100bt.f

  4     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  5    13 ms    10 ms    12 ms  bb1-fe0-0-100bt.rd
  6    14 ms    10 ms    11 ms  172.16.4.1
  7    11 ms    13 ms    15 ms  mae-west.netcom.ne
  8    33 ms    23 ms    23 ms  h4-0-4-sjx-ca-gw1.
  9    36 ms    21 ms    17 ms  t3-1.ple-ca-gw1.ne
 10     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 11     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 12    36 ms    26 ms    23 ms  205.187.70.4
 13    25 ms    30 ms    26 ms  205.187.70.5
 14    24 ms    30 ms    28 ms  205.187.114.147
 15     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 16     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 17     *        *        *     Request timed out.

Another test (i had to change to the IP to 205.187.70.4 since the PC was
shut off)
ping -R 205.187.70.4
PING 205.187.70.4 (205.187.70.4): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 205.187.70.4: icmp_seq=0 ttl=246 time=194.698 ms
RR:     10.0.255.246
        r2-fe0-0-100bt.rdc1.sfba.home.net (24.0.0.3)
        172.16.4.2
        bb.mae-w.home.net (198.32.136.70)
        h0-0-mae-west.netcom.net (163.179.233.214)
        h5-0.sjx-ca-gw1.netcom.net (163.179.219.6)
        ple-ca-gw1.netcom.net (163.179.20.253)
        205.187.70.4
        205.187.70.4

Now i've got 10.0.255.246 and 172.16.4.2.

Both 172.16.4.1 and 172.16.4.2 respond to pings (times <10ms). Is @Home
doing this because they're "naughty", for security reasons, or is it some
other place that's doing this?

--Ludwig Pummer
ludwigp@bigfoot.com   ICQ UIN: 692441   http://chipweb.home.ml.org


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