Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 08:07:55 -0500 From: Scot Hetzel <swhetzel@gmail.com> To: Melvyn Sopacua <melvyn@magemana.nl> Cc: Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com>, marino@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Ports mailing list <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>, Jakob Breivik Grimstveit <jakob@grimstveit.no> Subject: Re: Repair pkgng Message-ID: <CACdU%2Bf9RPEoxytKWtu73i%2B1oaxGgL=t8jHt0hEqGq9osG0Epgg@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1404101219010.57365@fire.magemana.nl> References: <CAFVH1KULq8wfn4HDTE6L6v5hg0XQhYZFOj4QVfsCVUMZ9hTKGw@mail.gmail.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1404082141290.61221@fire.magemana.nl> <CAN6yY1tAUuua5CsrZOgVnLZrk88rzFqNMi2opakejPPExROcSA@mail.gmail.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1404091234120.72830@fire.magemana.nl> <534527D6.5000802@marino.st> <CAN6yY1snD6=aHLz8CPbBY_SdRYomfR4wFz0fBhYmFwLPikWMNw@mail.gmail.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1404092014390.2238@fire.magemana.nl> <534590B7.8050805@marino.st> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1404101219010.57365@fire.magemana.nl>
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On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 5:45 AM, Melvyn Sopacua <melvyn@magemana.nl> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> On Wed, 9 Apr 2014, John Marino wrote:
>
>>> This still doesn't make sense. Distfiles are of no concern to binary
>>> packages, so why would I continue to clutter /var/db/pkg with a large
>>> tree of directories that is then duplicated to /var/db/ports?
>>> What problem in portmaster or the options framework was solved by moving
>>> this?
>>
>>
>> If the portmaster-created "distfiles" bother you, stop using portmaster,
>> perhaps? It seems superfluous to me anyway; I don't get why people feel
>> they need it with pkg.
>
>
> I already did a while back. Yet, it's still the recommended tool in the
> handbook if I'm not mistaken. FreeBSD has also always adhered to a
> sensible hier(7), which portmaster is now breaking.
>
>
>>
>> IFAIK, options has always been in /var/db/ports, this is not new. It
>> didn't get moved.
>
>
> Correct. Portmaster moved it's distfiles file.
>
>
Portmaster is not breaking hier(7).
Portmaster was originally designed to use the old pkg tools
(pkg_install, ...), it has ALWAYS placed it's files
(PM_UPGRADE_DONE_FLAG, +IGNOREME, distfiles) in
/var/db/pkg/${PKGNAME}.
The options framework is relatively new in regards to portmaster, as
portmaster was created before the options framework existed.
>> I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve with the "what problem was
>> solved" line of questioning. If it were moved, are you trying to get it
>> moved back? What's the goal here?
>
>
> Yeah. One of the advantages and early implementation goals of pkg(1) was
> to reduce clutter in /var/db/pkg.
> Secondly, 70-80% of common ports now use an options file (think DOCS,
> EXAMPLES, NLS), so the chance that /var/db/ports/portname already exists
> is pretty high.
>
> Why then reintroduce files/directories in /var/db/pkg that affect both
> port building and deployment? I don't understand what the upside to this
> change in portmaster is and thus assume that it solved an issue.
>
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