From owner-cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 18 13:16:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-src@freebsd.org Delivered-To: cvs-src@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A6BC16A400; Thu, 18 May 2006 13:16:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hm@kts.org) Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com (mailout03.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96FD243D48; Thu, 18 May 2006 13:16:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hm@kts.org) Received: from fwd33.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1FgiMe-0005TZ-01; Thu, 18 May 2006 15:16:28 +0200 Received: from ernie.int.kts.org (bL-nSQZcZeRjo3nDoXbw8nKDXv17zXnn8mz69YOESlkoqZtA-85QcO@[84.144.89.207]) by fwd33.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1FgiMZ-0SDzFI0; Thu, 18 May 2006 15:16:23 +0200 Received: from ernie.int.kts.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ernie.int.kts.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 86361-19; Thu, 18 May 2006 15:16:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bert.int.kts.org (bert.int.kts.org [172.31.42.2]) by ernie.int.kts.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC845D35; Thu, 18 May 2006 15:16:16 +0200 (CEST) From: Hellmuth Michaelis Organization: Kitchen Table Systems To: "Poul-Henning Kamp" Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 15:16:14 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <32041.1147896776@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: <32041.1147896776@critter.freebsd.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200605181516.15541.hm@kts.org> X-Virus-Scanned-KTS: Mail-UnWroks-U-Laksler at KTS.ORG X-ID: bL-nSQZcZeRjo3nDoXbw8nKDXv17zXnn8mz69YOESlkoqZtA-85QcO@t-dialin.net X-TOI-MSGID: 26729b72-1349-421d-ba7c-ccca2eb85d95 Cc: cvs-src@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, Julian Elischer , cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src Makefile.inc1 ObsoleteFiles.inc src/etc/defaults rc.conf src/etc/mtree BSD.usr.dist src/etc/rc.d Makefile isdnd pcvt syscons src/release/picobsd/build picobsd src/share/man/man4 Makefile atkbd.4 kbdmux.4 pcvt.4 splash.4 vkbd.4 ... X-BeenThere: cvs-src@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: hellmuth.michaelis@t-online.de List-Id: CVS commit messages for the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 13:16:38 -0000 On Wednesday 17 May 2006 22:12, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <446B8337.3060306@elischer.org>, Julian Elischer writes: > > >I've seen people mention that they are running pcvt quite recently. > > Last three times I've tried on -current, a pcvt kernel didn't even > boot. With all respect for you and your work on FreeBSD, Poul-Henning, i'd like to get some things said: pcvt is broken since your cleanup of the tty kernel code. Since then reports about the brokeness are coming in here. I tried to fix it but due to time shortage on my side and a non-understanding of what you did with the tty code lead me to ask you directly for help: From hm Sun Apr 3 10:46:39 2005 Subject: pcvt in 5.x and 6.x To: phk@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 11:07:20 +0200 (CEST) cc: re@freebsd.org I got a reply from you asking if i found something out about this which i answered and that was it. Silence. Now - it looks like that you cleaned up the tty code, got everything running and adjusted again, but - oops - forgot to also get pcvt running and adjusted again, and a year later, shouting, "look, pcvt does not run for over a year now", taking out the axe and ripping it off (the second time). Something looks not quite right to me here, doesn't it ? Granted, i have no idea where to start seaching for the thing preventing pcvt to work and i don't have the time to make me familiar with the changes in the tty subsystem. I think its your task to get pcvt running again as it ran before you touched the tty subsystem and pcvt deserves the same work to get it fixed as did the other subsystems got from you which were affected by your changes. Don't get me wrong: i think i have not enough understanding of what happened to the tty subsystem, so if its time for pcvt to get ripped off, then its time. On the other side - in case pcvt would at least run again then i would be happy to take care for it. peace, hellmuth -- Hellmuth Michaelis +49 (0)160 96 45 56 96 A duck is like a bicycle because they both have two wheels except the duck (tw)