From owner-freebsd-current Sat Sep 25 6:44:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from bytor.rush.net (bytor.rush.net [209.45.245.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A7F914C99; Sat, 25 Sep 1999 06:44:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lynch@bsdunix.net) Received: from localhost (lynch@localhost) by bytor.rush.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20703; Sat, 25 Sep 1999 09:44:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 09:44:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Lynch X-Sender: lynch@bytor.rush.net To: Ben Smithurst Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: On hub.freebsd.org refusing to talk to dialups In-Reply-To: <19990925133215.A35268@lithium.scientia.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG yes, Dynamic dialups are the real problems. I have a static dialup, and its essentially mine to do with what I want. its not counted among my ISP's dialup pools. ___________________________________________________________________________ Pat Lynch lynch@rush.net lynch@bsdunix.net Systems Administrator Rush Networking ___________________________________________________________________________ On Sat, 25 Sep 1999, Ben Smithurst wrote: > [ CC list trimmed ] > > Pat Lynch wrote: > > > DUL, while I'm not sure whether we should take this to -chat or not since > > we are now getting into noise on the -current list, is also a good thing. > > simply because noone on a dialup has reason to be sending mail directly to > > me, they should be sending it through thier ISP's mail servers. > > There are reasons not to use an ISP's smarthost. First, I have no idea > how long my mail will stay there. Second, if my mail can't be delivered > to the other end immediately, I'd rather be able to find out why by > checking my logs. Third, my ISP's smarthost has occasionally been > blacklisted by ORBS because it relays mail for its customers, some of > whom are running open relays. (This is a completely ridiculous action on > ORBS' part, IMO, but that's a discussion for somewhere else.) > > So far at least, I have never had any problems sending mail from my > dialup (which has a static IP address -- I think static IP dialups are > exempt from many dialup blocking lists), and I hope this will continue. > > -- > Ben Smithurst | PGP: 0x99392F7D > ben@scientia.demon.co.uk | key available from keyservers and > | ben+pgp@scientia.demon.co.uk > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message