From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri May 17 16:54:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA01955 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 17 May 1996 16:54:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tfs.com (tfs.com [140.145.250.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA01950 for ; Fri, 17 May 1996 16:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com by tfs.com (smail3.1.28.1) with SMTP id m0uKZLK-0003wIC; Fri, 17 May 96 16:53 PDT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA03152; Fri, 17 May 1996 23:53:54 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: critter.tfs.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: gdr@wcs.uq.edu.au cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Standard Shipping Containers In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 18 May 1996 06:06:02 +1000." <199605172006.GAA11345@ajax.che.curtin.edu.au> Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 23:53:46 +0000 Message-ID: <3150.832377226@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >> The great CTM - SUP - CVS and "who's taking cheap shots at who" debate. > > You've all read the arguments (if you are interested -- and I certainly am) > so I won't burden you with unnecessary context. > > I would regard myself as one of Richard's `Joe Users'. I've followed this > thread and feel I should give feedback from my perspective. Someone said > "Let the users speak" so here goes... > > [... lots of kind words omitted...] > > A number of questions:- > > Is the CVS tree available as ctm deltas or is it only -current and -stable? yes the deltas are called "cvs-cur" and you will suffer another 200Mb disk space for it... > Am I correct in thinking that with an up-to-date CVS tree (maintained by > sup or ctm) you can create any of the supported source trees in a fully > consistent and functional state at a time of your choosing? yes. +ports +you can diff versions. > Also would the only real penalty be extra disk space to keep it all? about 200M all things counted. > Finally am I correct in thinking that at the time of a release (either > SNAP or full release) you could just checkout your own release from your > locally maintained CVS tree and build it all yourself in a reasonably > trivial manner even for a moderately unskilled or semi-skilled user? yes. You can actually do that with various levels of success at any time. > Or if I'm way off the planet please let me down gently :-<. Very funny Scotty, now, please beam up my trousers too! :-) Thanks for the kind words, your situation more or less fits the profile for which CTM was intended, and I'm happy to hear that it works for you too. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so.