From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 15 23:01:52 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E441331DA2 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2018 23:01:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srs0=wgbf=oy=mail.sermon-archive.info=doug@sermon-archive.info) Received: from mail.sermon-archive.info (sermon-archive.info [71.177.216.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F40B68BAD2 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2018 23:01:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srs0=wgbf=oy=mail.sermon-archive.info=doug@sermon-archive.info) Received: from [10.0.1.251] (mini [10.0.1.251]) by mail.sermon-archive.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 43HNFz5v7Rz2fjQw; Sat, 15 Dec 2018 15:01:43 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.2 \(3445.102.3\)) Subject: Re: FreeBSD 12.0 or 11.2 From: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: <20181215080851.6bf4b0d3@yandex.com> Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2018 15:01:43 -0800 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3C631EC0-7717-4B2E-8A21-D9B75F366D34@mail.sermon-archive.info> References: <20181215080851.6bf4b0d3@yandex.com> To: starikarp@yandex.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.102.3) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.100.1 at mail X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: F40B68BAD2 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of srs0=wgbf=oy=mail.sermon-archive.info=doug@sermon-archive.info designates 71.177.216.148 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=srs0=wgbf=oy=mail.sermon-archive.info=doug@sermon-archive.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.79 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.05)[-0.053,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:71.177.216.148]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.08)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[sermon-archive.info]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[148.216.177.71.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.19)[-0.191,0]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.46)[0.458,0]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[bc979@lafn.org,srs0=wgbf=oy=mail.sermon-archive.info=doug@sermon-archive.info]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[yandex.com]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:5650, ipnet:71.177.216.0/23, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[bc979@lafn.org,srs0=wgbf=oy=mail.sermon-archive.info=doug@sermon-archive.info]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2018 23:01:52 -0000 > On 15 December 2018, at 05:08, starikarp@yandex.com wrote: >=20 > Hi! >=20 > I did change hard drive with bad condition with the SSD drive and I am > ready for the new install of FreeBSD which I am using on the desktop > computer which is iMac. > On the FreeBSD forum are many complains about new 12.0 release and I = am > not sure if is safe to install it or install the 11.2 which worked for > me all the time. That depends on how you are using it. 12.0 is a major system upgrade. = There are a number of changes in various parts of the system. This is = normal for a major system upgrade. It can make it a bit difficult if = you have lots of your own code and it relies on something that has = changed. The defaults for openssl have changed, and basename_r has been = eliminated. My code was relying on both of those. I have had to make = changes. Figuring out the cause of the problems does take some effort. = It's not seamless. However, the base system seems to be quite stable. = I have been beating it about since it came out and have not seen any = issues other than the deliberate changes. It would be nice if all those = changes were documented, but I suspect that document would be so long no = one would have the time to read it anyway. You are going to have to go = to 12 sometime. You can kick the can down the road a bit and hope you = have more time available then to deal with any issues. However, in my = experience that doesn't work. I never have more time down the road. -- Doug