From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sun Nov 6 18:22:22 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F76EC33703 for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2016 18:22:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F02A5E7B for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2016 18:22:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id EF7F1C33702; Sun, 6 Nov 2016 18:22:21 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF272C33701 for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2016 18:22:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [192.108.105.60]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.soaustin.net", Issuer "StartCom Class 2 IV Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21768E78; Sun, 6 Nov 2016 18:22:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from lonesome.com (bones.soaustin.net [192.108.105.22]) by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 50E822858; Sun, 6 Nov 2016 12:22:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2016 12:22:18 -0600 From: Mark Linimon To: Eivind Nicolay Evensen Cc: Ronald Klop , Baptiste Daroussin , Julian Elischer , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RFC] remove GNU rcs from FreeBSD 12 Message-ID: <20161106182217.GA9108@lonesome.com> References: <20160911133804.a7j7p3x2viqzcpec@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <20161025182730.GA60030@klump.hjerdalen.lokalnett> <20161106110929.GA19203@klump.hjerdalen.lokalnett> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20161106110929.GA19203@klump.hjerdalen.lokalnett> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2016 18:22:22 -0000 On Sun, Nov 06, 2016 at 12:09:30PM +0100, Eivind Nicolay Evensen wrote: > I also thought that perl was a good example of another piece of software > that once was provided and no longer is. Yes, that's true, but somewhat different. perl was removed because keeping it became incompatible with the concept of the -stable branches. perl development was simply moving faster than FreeBSD major releases, leading to FreeBSD having to keep maintaining an obsolete piece of software far past the time upstream had dropped support for it. Of course this is a problem with any software that FreeBSD imports, but IIUC this may have been the most painful case. (I was just starting to use FreeBSD at the time, so was really just an observer.) mcl