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To: Mason Loring Bliss Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ce5eb905e8595ac2" ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1662845357; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=D90vHhllu+7HrioyVRtK3N9xyKbKCA9DAkPMSltWI3k=; b=EksVDDBT1pJcbXAWlKCx32Qw9XLTE/pgY0eFYWSUi4g8LFvKKn7uhxMciObY8GXTBn0mDR IxdNyJevGplS38uPKtdvESBVoLvTG+x9yVB1fhqLUpxMfnAqGtm9tyiz3AyY+n/BhEa4Gp n2f9wno5cJqkjMoFV77QYR2GxI768yCyFf22O9KSc/Szm8VONutLJhfKTJvmvHNe59zTgW Q9GKFNYkjEMyuZ+OxpYkQaV0HbkJ3pm1R6BKcq5Zc8XI6FCWjhgTpDEPX0pr0Mfe4Jbob8 f5mOATUXgPzMKF2jzUOmBCgXnLysXwL6PMgnbsCn4X4GLn4NvqK2Fanp6pQMLA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1662845357; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=fI+EvlXiSFOLa8y67b+9i9nJVttHv5bs96igkDtcxx03Ew4R+5o5apg6N+AYOzPt+RjKct Ktfl5+rib/qT52dfJvr+pI6j5ATsYOaZOwpx48aozSsBIkNz4vPCrMmn4QFJoO0Xjms9xk z8Hs2aT4hyNBr03sSRYSloerwA+K3J9wa2zJ/wyP9Y+ozAGivcsqHjpTfpw4AAjHSloJoy uZmk356AB7vtuR+isTKtYTRZwHrUFs53JjO2Znfu/ZnyDb8SsvwXx9mizYrBQGvMWk/u6t Sle9KueFrhll3KDIdjOoFdhGwqtb/9snA/PYQmwoqTqzZb9fzyOG1gXxC/uRCw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --000000000000ce5eb905e8595ac2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Sorry for the top posting, I'm using my phone. It's true that this error can be fixed easily, but the idea is to teach other committers how to handle this. Graham will fix this so soon :) Sorry for the inconvenience. Btw, the documentation code is in our git at cgit.FreeBSD.org If you want to learn how to upgrade our website/documentation portal, please ping me. Bye! El s=C3=A1b., 10 sept. 2022 23:12, Mason Loring Bliss escribi=C3=B3: > I'd noted FreeBSD 13.0's end of life on IRC a couple times, and then open= ed > a bug to have it removed from the freebsd.org front page. Between my live > mentions and opening a bug, Graham Perrin opened his own, and found more > things to correct, so his is the right one to drive forward. But here we > are, September 10th, heading towards two weeks of 13.0 no longer having > formal support, and the main page still notes 13.0 as being supported. > > This feels like something that ought to be so trivially easy to correct a= s > to not warrant mention, but instead it seems to be dragging on, and it > seems like a problem that the project can't post correct and up to date > information about itself on the web site, despite at least a couple peopl= e > interested in seeing it updated, one of whom (Graham) has a commit bit, a= s > I understand it. > > What's missing? > > Please take this as a desire to understand the current state and to see > process improvement, not as a complaint about volunteers not doing work o= n > a schedule. (That said, I'd volunteer if that'd make it happen. I updated > the Torrents wiki page, moving 13.0 out of current releases, because I > could, but I (appropriately, since I'm not formally tied to the project) > don't have access to update the main web site.) > > -- > Mason Loring Bliss (( If I have not seen as far as others, it is becau= se > mason@blisses.org )) giants were standing on my shoulders. - Hal > Abelson > --000000000000ce5eb905e8595ac2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

Sorry fo= r the top posting, I'm using my phone.

It's true that this error can be fixed easily, but t= he idea is to teach other committers how to handle this. Graham will fix th= is so soon :)

Sorry for = the inconvenience.

Btw, = the documentation code is in our git at cgit.FreeBSD.org

If= you want to learn how to upgrade our website/documentation portal, please = ping me.

Bye!

El s= =C3=A1b., 10 sept. 2022 23:12, Mason Loring Bliss <mason@blisses.org> escribi=C3=B3:
I'd noted FreeBSD 13.0's end of life on IRC a= couple times, and then opened
a bug to have it removed from the freebsd.org front page. Between m= y live
mentions and opening a bug, Graham Perrin opened his own, and found more things to correct, so his is the right one to drive forward. But here we are, September 10th, heading towards two weeks of 13.0 no longer having
formal support, and the main page still notes 13.0 as being supported.

This feels like something that ought to be so trivially easy to correct as<= br> to not warrant mention, but instead it seems to be dragging on, and it
seems like a problem that the project can't post correct and up to date=
information about itself on the web site, despite at least a couple people<= br> interested in seeing it updated, one of whom (Graham) has a commit bit, as<= br> I understand it.

What's missing?

Please take this as a desire to understand the current state and to see
process improvement, not as a complaint about volunteers not doing work on<= br> a schedule. (That said, I'd volunteer if that'd make it happen. I u= pdated
the Torrents wiki page, moving 13.0 out of current releases, because I
could, but I (appropriately, since I'm not formally tied to the project= )
don't have access to update the main web site.)

--
Mason Loring Bliss=C2=A0 ((=C2=A0 =C2=A0If I have not seen as far as others= , it is because
=C2=A0mason@blisses.org=C2=A0 =C2=A0))=C2=A0 =C2=A0giants were standing = on my shoulders. - Hal Abelson
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