From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jun 22 09:00:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA14505 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 09:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jolt.eng.umd.edu (jolt.eng.umd.edu [129.2.102.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA14499 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 09:00:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ginger.eng.umd.edu (ginger.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.204]) by jolt.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA02593; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 12:00:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by ginger.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA08872; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 12:00:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 12:00:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@ginger.eng.umd.edu To: Wolfram Schneider cc: Peter Mutsaers , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: tcl -- what's going on here. In-Reply-To: <199606221459.QAA05927@campa.panke.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 22 Jun 1996, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > Peter Mutsaers writes: > >I also install tcl almost on all machines I use. But that doesn't mean > >that it should be in the main tree instead of in ports. The main tree > >should contain only the base OS? Ports is for all the nice optional > >extras. > > >I'd like more to see perl be removed from the main tree (since perl4 > >is outdated anyway, and perl5 is in ports). > > You can't remove perl from the main tree ;-))) Many sytem tools are > written in perl. Don't waste your time to rewrite them in C because > you don't like perl! True, but the tcl move seems to raise other questions, doesn't it ... like, why should we have tcl without tk? If we have tk, shouldn't we have XFree86? Don't leap to the conclusion that I'd be against it, either, if it were done well. I am beginning to wonder if keeping FreeBSD strictly out of X means keeping it 10 years behind current technology (in some respects, at least). Keeping FreeBSD lean and mean also means keeping the administration tools hamstrung, and the user interface rocky. Think of what the standard FreeBSD could be if it wasn't quite so lean. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+-----------------------------------------------