From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Dec 3 19:29:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA02491 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 19:29:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA02485; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 19:29:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id WAA02669; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 22:26:03 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199612040326.WAA02669@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: The real issue... To: davem@jenolan.rutgers.edu (David S. Miller) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 22:26:03 -0500 (EST) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, lm@neteng.engr.sgi.com, dyson@FreeBSD.org, thorpej@nas.nasa.gov, dennis@etinc.com, kpneal@pobox.com, hackers@FreeBSD.org, torvalds@cs.helsinki.fi, lm@relay.engr.SGI.COM, iain@sbs.de, sparclinux@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199612040245.VAA19411@jenolan.caipgeneral> from "David S. Miller" at Dec 3, 96 09:45:13 pm Reply-To: dyson@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Date: Tue, 03 Dec 1996 17:32:18 -0800 > From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" > > This is not dirty pool, this is you deciding that you're unable to > play soccer in our arena and so running off to kick the ball in a > corner by yourself, screaming "goal!" everytime you manage to get the > ball past your imaginary goalkeeper. > > It is in fact dirty pool, because you have decided to keep the soccer > ball all to yourselves in certain circumstances. How is this fair? > And this is precisely what John has stated, that you withold perf > tools and other similar things which we allow anyone and their > grandmother to publicly get at. > Nope, just because you have the soccer ball, doesn't mean that you have the right to the machine that makes it. Geesh!!! Do you want to own me also? (Yep, I can see it written into the GPL now.) BTW, if you pay me for them, I'll give'em to you. Say, they have taken me 500Hrs to produce. Since I would be giving up a large part of my ownership, I will ask for approx $50/Hr for my time. For $25K you can have whatever software tools that I have, and that will allow me to invest in a new Alpha system for the new super-VM system Alpha port for FreeBSD!!! Then, you can release them for public consumption... In essence, you will have employed me to produce them... I think that could work, what do you think? John