From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 28 22:32:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA00703 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 22:32:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freya.circle.net (freya.circle.net [209.95.95.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA00698 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 22:32:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tcobb@staff.circle.net) Received: by freya.circle.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Fri, 29 May 1998 01:31:50 -0400 Message-ID: <509A2986E5C5D111B7DD0060082F32A402FAC7@freya.circle.net> From: tcobb To: "'Greg Lehey'" , "'Mike Smith'" Cc: "'freebsd-current@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: DPT driver fails and panics with Degraded Array Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 01:31:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Lehey [mailto:grog@lemis.com] > If you just want to report a bug, use send-pr. That will reach the > person responsible for it as quickly as possible (consider that a lot > of us just drop some of the mailing lists when the combined volume > gets too high). The purpose of sending the message to -CURRRENT > would be to draw the problem to the attention of other people using > the software. Indeed. And that was the point of sending to freebsd-current. I wanted anyone using the DPT driver and expecting it to perform appropriately in critical circumstances to know that it will not do so. I perhaps should have sent the email to -hackers instead? Or, maybe -scsi, like I did -- it is a scsi driver problem I'm talking about. I chose HA hardware for the particular reason that the server needs to be *available*. I settled on FreeBSD for all the servers I manage 2.5 years ago because it was the highest quality OS for Intel architectures. > > "Indicators" are that I shouldn't be using FreeBSD for any High > > Availability or critical operations -- I AM using FreeBSD > for > 15 live > > servers. > > > > Now, what was your point? > > > Basically, I'd guess Mike is saying "don't use FreeBSD-CURRENT in > production environments". I agree. I wouldn't have done so without provocation. My counterpoint is that FreeBSD-STABLE is NOT stable, either. Regardless, due to show-stopper bugs in -stable... My choices were: 1. Discard FreeBSD completely for this server. 2. Switch to a -current snapshot. I didn't want to do #1, so I spent two weeks rolling a -current snapshot release for my in-house use, I tested it, and tested it. It works well. My posting was really to point to the fact that it appears that the DPT driver is deficient across ALL releases, not just -current. Believe me, I understand the uncharted waters I've entered with my -current snapshot. The DPT driver failure was the unexpected thing. -Troy Cobb Circle Net, Inc. http://www.circle.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message