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Subject: Re: Pipe queues
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Peter Jeremy wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 09:21:17AM +0400, rihad wrote:
>> And if I _only_ want to shape IP traffic to given speed, without 
>> prioritizing anything, do I still need queues? This was the whole point.
> 
> No you don't.  I'm using pipes without queues extensively to simulate
> WANs without bothering with any prioritisation.
> 

Great! One fine point remains, though:
# ipfw pipe 1 config bw 128Kbit/s
will use a queue of 50 slots by default. What good are they for, if I 
didn't ask for queuing in the first place?