From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Sun Mar 5 03:32:08 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD5AACF80B4; Sun, 5 Mar 2017 03:32:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cse.cem@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-f52.google.com (mail-wm0-f52.google.com [74.125.82.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E940165D; Sun, 5 Mar 2017 03:32:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cse.cem@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-f52.google.com with SMTP id n11so40948184wma.0; Sat, 04 Mar 2017 19:32:07 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=uEc6se7Z1A1HeThyUoZKTaK4LcnxxATCNy7qvB9fEBc=; b=oJ6FAAJqg87otQI2rL/2MSf16GYWnzcxJLuFPHQX/nazV73n5EnAjx6gZJ3f11ADYi BOos4mZeih+Py9O8C4GkJn94rV8/ELqjl0jEjk8aGQu7QFkS5sKCNkByFnpZQGm2bTHy cHJa+938/UffW7wx4YzsuDGNDXZTRtrh3ieeofYGUdqq/qKoHPUX3+Ifmw7oKu5iaAiP C6g8dV5mzgluPiaajqImkFDE8l/WlEE82O7ne4Zy53prCkWuscFNsLiEqGBO3mk9dKaE eDf+RWdYM4LKzyxqGVg8mboDFcx/QTgZjGzZ12ROvNog9ON16hK2KfhR/xfJPqaWZIUy o5Kg== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39n2rm5LQUUNSwZPay4ZR/G7hsTidVorw5Ta+EB73/4V/nBR0JZLXehfjI/asaCJtQ== X-Received: by 10.28.23.140 with SMTP id 134mr8311525wmx.23.1488684250075; Sat, 04 Mar 2017 19:24:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wm0-f49.google.com (mail-wm0-f49.google.com. [74.125.82.49]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c2sm4895117wre.55.2017.03.04.19.24.09 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 04 Mar 2017 19:24:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wm0-f49.google.com with SMTP id n11so40703760wma.1; Sat, 04 Mar 2017 19:24:09 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.28.174.14 with SMTP id x14mr8454281wme.75.1488684249796; Sat, 04 Mar 2017 19:24:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: cem@freebsd.org Received: by 10.80.169.4 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Mar 2017 19:24:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20170305115437.R1556@besplex.bde.org> References: <201703042238.v24McAD8008837@repo.freebsd.org> <20170305115437.R1556@besplex.bde.org> From: Conrad Meyer Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2017 19:24:09 -0800 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r314685 - head/bin/ps To: Bruce Evans Cc: src-committers , svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2017 03:32:08 -0000 On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 6:50 PM, Bruce Evans wrote: >> Author: cem >> Date: Sat Mar 4 22:38:10 2017 >> New Revision: 314685 >> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/314685 >> >> Log: >> ps(1): Only detect terminal width if stdout is a tty >> >> If stdout isn't a tty, use unlimited width output rather than truncating >> to >> 79 characters. This is helpful for shell scripts or e.g., 'ps | grep >> foo'. > > This breaks many interactive uses, e.g., 'ps l | less', to work around a > user error. Hi Bruce, Can you illustrate what breaks here? less(1) doesn't wrap lines and instead supports side-to-side scrolling with left/right arrow keys. The user should get basically the same output with 'ps l | less' as with 'ps l', aside from ability to scroll up/down and left/right. Thanks, Conrad