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Date:      Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:45:42 -0800
From:      "David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.ORG>
To:        "Michael D. Harnois" <mharnois@cpinternet.com>
Cc:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>, Stijn Hoop <stijn@win.tue.nl>, "Alexander N. Kabaev" <ak03@gte.com>, Bjoern Fischer <bfischer@Techfak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE>, current@FreeBSD.ORG, "freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.   Org" <freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG>, vova@sw.ru
Subject:   Re: ports/34908: libpng port makes bad dynamic library on -CURRENT
Message-ID:  <20020221134542.B23386@dragon.nuxi.com>
In-Reply-To: <1014327548.19351.0.camel@mharnois.mdharnois.net>; from mharnois@cpinternet.com on Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 03:39:08PM -0600
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On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 03:39:08PM -0600, Michael D. Harnois wrote:
> On Thu, 2002-02-21 at 13:29, Terry Lambert wrote:
> > "Michael D. Harnois" wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2002-02-21 at 04:03, David O'Brien wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 12:05:31AM +0100, Stijn Hoop wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe this can now be committed?
> > > >
> > > > NOT until I have sufficient feedback from the FSF Binutils developers.
> > > 
> > > OK, I'm confused. binutils has been broken for three weeks. We have a
> > > patch that we know fixes, at the very least, one of the known problems.
> > > However, it can't be committed without feedback from the developers.
> > > 
> > > So having binutils broken indefinitely is better than applying a patch
> > > that *might* have to be backed out or altered later?
> > 
> > I believe the intent is to ensure that the patches make it
> > back into the FSF distributed code, so that in the future,
> > there is less maintenance required for FreeBSD platforms.
> 
> This is all wonderful.
> 
> But then it seems to me that the entire new binutils should have been
> backed out until it worked. Just like XFree-4.2.0 was backed out.

It works in general for 'make world' and is suffient for FreeBSD
developent -- the purpose of 5-CURRENT.  It is also allowing us to find
bugs that would otherwise go unfixed in Binutils 2.12.0 release.  Or
would you perfer we stick to 2.11.x forever -- BTW that would not give us
support for IA-64 or x86-64.

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