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[59.167.128.11]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gv10sm5029294pbd.0.2013.12.18.23.32.23 for <multiple recipients> (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 18 Dec 2013 23:32:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <52B2A101.3050609@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 18:32:17 +1100 From: Kubilay Kocak <koobs.freebsd@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:26.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/26.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcus von Appen <mva@FreeBSD.org>, William Grzybowski <wg@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] lang/python removed as implicit port dependency References: <20131218172613.GA1419@medusa.sysfault.org> In-Reply-To: <20131218172613.GA1419@medusa.sysfault.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports-announce@freebsd.org, freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-python@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-python@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: koobs@FreeBSD.org List-Id: FreeBSD-specific Python issues <freebsd-python.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-python>, <mailto:freebsd-python-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-python/> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-python@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-python-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-python>, <mailto:freebsd-python-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 07:32:27 -0000 On 19/12/2013 4:26 AM, Marcus von Appen wrote: > On behalf of the FreeBSD python team, I'd like to announce that the > lang/python port has been removed as an implicit port dependency for > ports using USE_PYTHON, USE_PYTHON_BUILD and USE_PYTHON_RUN in revision > 336850. > > Why? > > The removal is necessary to bring us a step closer to building and > installing ports for multiple python versions at the same time. > > What does that mean for port users? > > If you are using the ports tree to build your own ports from scratch, > propably not much. Chances are high that lang/python was installed > earlier, either as dependency or directly by you. In that case, it is > very unlikely that you will run into any trouble with the change and > hence you should not need to do anything in special. > > What does that mean for pkg users? > > If you are using pkg or are running your own pkg build server > (e.g. via poudriere), it might happen that the one or other port > breaks, since it cannot find the 'python' command or something > else, which is installed by lang/python. > > We tried our best to keep the breakage as low as possible, but with > more than 24000 ports to test and endless OPTION combinations, this is > an impossible task. Please accept our apologies for your inconvenience > and let us know about that misbehaviour by submitting a PR. > > If you are not a port maintainer, committer or developer, you can stop > reading now. > > What about maintainers and port developers? > > Please read the CHANGES. Keep the direct usage of lang/python within > BUILD_ and RUN_DEPENDS as low as possible. Using lang/python as > dependency will complicate package building for different python > versions (due to the PACKAGE_DEPENDS_ONLY knob). Ports should refer to > a specific python version, version range or a version meta port > (lang/python2 or lang/python3) instead. > > USE_PYTHON=yes and friends will only pull in the default python > version now (e.g. lang/python27 or whatever is configured via > DEFAULT_VERSIONS), so test your port thoroughly for (a possibly) > incorrect usage of the 'python' command. > > Cheers > Marcus > I'd just like to let everyone know just how laborious this body of work was, and say that the degree to which it was a success and seamless is a testament to Marcus' commitment and tenacity. Among other Big Hairy Audacious Goal's the Python@ team has kicked in the past two quarters, this and the move to setuptools install led by William (wg@) deserve special recognition. So *thank you* both, on behalf of every FreeBSD/Python user, developer and administrator who is set to benefit from your efforts. Stand out work :) Koobs