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Date:      Fri, 16 Nov 2012 12:59:20 +0200
From:      Andriy Gapon <avg@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Daniel Braniss <danny@cs.huji.ac.il>
Cc:        freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, Erik Cederstrand <erik@cederstrand.dk>
Subject:   Re: compiler info in kernel identification string
Message-ID:  <50A61C88.9040203@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <E1TZJYo-0009eF-CR@kabab.cs.huji.ac.il>
References:  <20121113234303.GA15319@dft-labs.eu> <50A3639C.9050200@FreeBSD.org> <1352907497.1217.147.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> <50A57623.4020108@FreeBSD.org> <50A5EC7C.5050303@FreeBSD.org> <5B4DE1FD-5DD3-49A5-B8DB-6D4C03ABD742@cederstrand.dk> <50A606E7.5000302@FreeBSD.org> <E1TZIix-0008lm-Al@kabab.cs.huji.ac.il> <50A612F9.30509@FreeBSD.org> <E1TZJYo-0009eF-CR@kabab.cs.huji.ac.il>

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on 16/11/2012 12:54 Daniel Braniss said the following:
>>
>> This is starting to turn into a bikeshed, but anyway...
>>
>> on 16/11/2012 12:00 Daniel Braniss said the following:
>>> the question as to what compiler was used to compile the kernel is a bit of an
>>> oxymoron, since the kernel is made up of many different modules, which get 
>>> compiled
>>> either by different compilers, or different compiler flags.
>>
>> The canonical way to compile a kernel is to use buildkernel and compile modules
> 
> this does not guarantee uniformity, just look at the output it produces and 
> you will see
> different compilers/assemblers/scripts/flags

Different flags specified in the build infrastructure are OK.

>> along with the kernel.  Other configurations are supported too, of course.
>>
> 
>>> since the compiler does 'sign' the modules it compiles (and clang will/should
>>> do it soon: http://llvm.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=7292) some tool like
>>> file(1) could be modified to provide it, or config -x (8) ...
>>
>> The key word in your note about clang is 'soon' as in 'not yet'.
> Dimitry wrote that he will handle it :-)

Right. 'will' is not 'did'.

>>
>> Besides, when I see a bug report with a dmesg *I* want to immediately know what
>> compiler was used there.
> today it's clang vs. gcc -- transition time --, but again it's only part of 
> the story,
> and soon it will only be noise.

Different kernel toolchains are here to stay.
And it's not just clang vs gcc, but also different toolchains for embedded
world, etc.

-- 
Andriy Gapon



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