From nobody Thu May 19 16:36:27 2022 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B899C1ADA257 for ; Thu, 19 May 2022 16:36:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4e000014cfc49.61ad886acc27f3cad2a1b64bb695197a@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4L3wV55B8lz3FsJ for ; Thu, 19 May 2022 16:36:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4e000014cfc49.61ad886acc27f3cad2a1b64bb695197a@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1652978190; x=1655570190; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info:subject:to:from:cc:reply-to; bh=UskWTpzqxqIDjIYvnVsXlk5qUrX7JxmW+G1MBWz7nD4=; b=k8BTxT4Dpsc564kdAiwXphGcQqgFkF5b5z03GKFuDH54NU/UZ0b42lEVbzBIClI7ngoDDMvgQyDPrB1KrepGOatOVCtvyofcrzfYh5CV3J3U1mGiOXvHXdAWAJXNaBtaxJJNT7JWTMsrI/jWpw01I7bfageWNuvp0V6FW3Xcofs= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xZDRlMDAwMDE0Y2ZjNDkucXVlc3Rpb25zPWZyZWVic2Qub3Jn Received: from r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.191.1]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Thu, 19 May 2022 12:36:29 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Thu, 19 May 2022 12:36:28 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.94.2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1nrj8V-000HuK-J8; Thu, 19 May 2022 17:36:27 +0100 Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 17:36:27 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: questions@freebsd.org Cc: doug@safeport.com Subject: Re: Single User Message-Id: <20220519173627.92d86857c4cddcea935920c1@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <057d7d-a0c2-aae9-e653-b186fd82a923@safeport.com> References: <91d28f49-1c1b-d2bf-5fd6-8b2e206ee6c7@andyit.com.au> <20220519132547.6b8cbb36.freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com> <24632e11-1a86-8553-cf44-d29aa40a6858@kicp.uchicago.edu> <057d7d-a0c2-aae9-e653-b186fd82a923@safeport.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd13.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4L3wV55B8lz3FsJ X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=k8BTxT4D; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.82.1d4e000014cfc49.61ad886acc27f3cad2a1b64bb695197a@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.82.1d4e000014cfc49.61ad886acc27f3cad2a1b64bb695197a@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.70 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20:c]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[142.0.191.1:received]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4e000014cfc49.61ad886acc27f3cad2a1b64bb695197a@email-od.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4e000014cfc49.61ad886acc27f3cad2a1b64bb695197a@email-od.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[email-od.com:dkim] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Thu, 19 May 2022 14:59:44 +0000 (UTC) doug wrote: > Pretty sure I am the only one on this list who used compressed punched > cards on IBSYS. That said, two things are obvious here: 13 is in pretty > good shape; and it is a slow news day. Not on IBSYS but as a schoolboy using the IBM 1130 a lot at the local technical college I had my own card draw and booking privileges. Prior to that I used paper tape on an ASR-33 - the keyboard on the 029 card punches was *much* nicer to use. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith