Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 10:57:58 +0200 From: Kurt Jaeger <lists@opsec.eu> To: Torfinn Ingolfsen <tingox@gmail.com> Cc: FreeBSD Ports ML <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Is pkg quarterly really needed? Message-ID: <20170420085758.GI74780@home.opsec.eu> In-Reply-To: <CAJ_iqtZT9zyh-ygCXd7mjs_Gft_bWVp8%2BppvXpJ04LOi0aCwtw@mail.gmail.com> References: <58F61A8D.1030309@a1poweruser.com> <CALfReyctL3vTt756oyh1ZTf%2BkgpAOHwp_SUZQCFQiZDccFNMow@mail.gmail.com> <CAOjFWZ4naPVfQFEr7Hz%2B9A0_fa5O1V0H%2Butd9eMo02eHPGxehg@mail.gmail.com> <68ad0daa-b1f5-f3a6-f056-dcf2f0047d94@freebsd.org> <CAJ_iqtYCzurer52X5JVsgvDvEeuvAFRPXyYea9=6=rLcmeACsA@mail.gmail.com> <20170420060017.GG74780@home.opsec.eu> <CAJ_iqtZT9zyh-ygCXd7mjs_Gft_bWVp8%2BppvXpJ04LOi0aCwtw@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi! > >> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 1:30 AM, Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org> wrote: > >> > quarterly however is broken because the pkg mirors discard it all at the > >> > time of update. > >> Do they have to? > >> Why couldn't pkg mirrors keep say, the four latest quarterly sets > >> all the time? > > Because the URL for the latest quarterly is one stable URL. > Obviously this has to be changed. As I wrote: > "No extra work involved once the setup is configured and tested". > So yes, there is some work needed, but it would be a one-time job. > If anyone has any real arguments as to why the FreeBSD project can't > do it this way, let's hear them. Lack of developer- and clusteradm-time. See my other posting. Time deficit goes directly to the core of pkg/ports stuff, which is, due to the complexity, limited to very few very skilled people that happen to find time to solve the problem. It's not a trivial problem, you can look at almost all source code ecosystems (OSX, Microsoft, Solaris 8-}, debian, etc): All struggle with the rate of change and the complexity of the task. So it's not helping to yell louder at the folks working on it, so please yell smarter 8-} Use a yelling tool like bugzilla, and fine-tune your yelling by providing test cases and patches. -- pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 3 years to go !
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