From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Mon Oct 9 16:06:26 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D807BE34921 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2017 16:06:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C6C81B68 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2017 16:06:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 3C01FE3491E; Mon, 9 Oct 2017 16:06:26 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E18E3491D for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2017 16:06:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-io0-x230.google.com (mail-io0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E59A1B4D for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2017 16:06:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-io0-x230.google.com with SMTP id m16so13131449iod.1 for ; Mon, 09 Oct 2017 09:06:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=EpLK2fv73b2sZsndY8e8fAL7M3i9E2q72HKcVCgSImI=; b=ja2+XvWDwrOzBtgsuTXLXmv9CR912dCYPIpThqstxC/H85cYGfazCzPObwEobuKn3B G/zURW/9yMgvRpzWMMbhikHW7rZrxY34XPazXRyKAWFfqkaYVeWPR7oOh+fW1zkUL+Bp hfauRwYzECjm0ElGjxX/gXN/VHAieJNkJOMxVIdEaG6pAe3pD6OF1pDXo+paIOQXXS9d 7XyZJW9JtVFZTpM+FoscGrl5bXVyudp1IaUlWv9U/QkUmFSztgoZon9RvzPo1z5P92+l gYbjKXXJde/Gj1/pCmEoWUFMTcFPLJ3h8iOVtOM18igVfUqIYqobMxaBjVoaztx0S8Nu 9uRw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=EpLK2fv73b2sZsndY8e8fAL7M3i9E2q72HKcVCgSImI=; b=WANQKJbzieJo9iA2ZCkwJqoGVYs6/irNvclOWlHh+reZ7gFPZp0zrZPEBN8AB/wbXf c9jk1BbKw2sPllJWcJmGNGmuLlrX1WZTE/8s0WdnNjv/o1UlAE/94KZk79GLAAI3NlxH dPESoO/OS5R8ka0w7+bKGZiHw2ADeVTnod9NfME3hyeTqxV585ssB/1LRQAYEWhVpPVA QftQGGUx5rxGYYQ/funUrST2I5fUJtWQt6Fo/G+KG0t2rbbz4WvkRFWZz5j8ul2VyWB3 GZMjgztIRkzllH2UsxostBcSr6E0Ul3hdBThzDXVOTwlMwDw2Ftxde6zUGryxlR9K9gb rffA== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaWVQ5P47FyJGiK2q+tgdU3bWVhXA9MRyMV+vkY0M7xMrmFkBGlo mZfO2lcD/9pYurecOLJswlD1a0j+XkvkhTyoijfNLQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QB1EU6/OBKojpn7mrz/msBGmO4WixgL4G5PHjr57JLmAnSY/KTxpjit0umO5Phf2DdRkh4WjaRKCWlhSZXDW4s= X-Received: by 10.107.68.6 with SMTP id r6mr14833738ioa.282.1507565184580; Mon, 09 Oct 2017 09:06:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: wlosh@bsdimp.com Received: by 10.79.94.130 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Oct 2017 09:06:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [2603:300b:6:5100:8936:338a:89de:d5ea] In-Reply-To: <23C4A573-05A7-4D76-9179-19169ECAB570@FreeBSD.org> References: <23C4A573-05A7-4D76-9179-19169ECAB570@FreeBSD.org> From: Warner Losh Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 10:06:24 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: kie_YbQqXR-sThxINC5ePOGZGL8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: deorbiting /usr/lib/libstand.a, moving to sysboot To: Dimitry Andric Cc: "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2017 16:06:27 -0000 On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Dimitry Andric wrote: > On 9 Oct 2017, at 07:45, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > I'd like to deorbit /usr/lib/stand.a and /usr/include/stand.h. These are > > really parts of the boot loader with an unstable API and shouldn't be > > installed into the system. It's really a private library to the boot > loader. > > Though I completely agree with this, I am still interested in the > historical reasons for separating out this library for general userland > consumption. Were there any other parts of world that happened to use > libstand? > Nope. As far as I can tell, it's never been used in FreeBSD. Historically, it was use for the stand-alone programs used to bootstrap the system (eg to copy the miniroot file from tape to disk swap area for the install and disk formatting and partitioning). Warner