From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 11:27:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from damnhippie.dyndns.org (12-253-177-2.client.attbi.com [12.253.177.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A1D537B404; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 11:27:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.22.42.2] (peace.hippie.lan [172.22.42.2]) by damnhippie.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2OJRMU88754; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:27:22 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@damnhippie.dyndns.org) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:27:29 -0700 Subject: Re: For Review: sendmail 8.12.2 import into -STABLE From: Ian To: Gregory Neil Shapiro , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <15513.38875.83457.102683@horsey.gshapiro.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I rebooted today for the first time since I installed the patches to update to sendmail 8.12.2 on my development machine. I was startled, after the reboot, to see that I had two sendmail daemons running. One of them clearly identified itself as the client queue-runner, and I had read the new docs about that, so it didn't surprise me that much. The other running instance of it said only "sendmail (accepting connections)" and it took some digging to realize that it's only accepting connections on localhost:25 and thus must be the new local submission daemon. It seems very counter-intuitive to me to have "sendmail_enable=NO" in my rc.conf and end up with two sendmail daemons running. (Yes, I did find the new knobs and twiddled them to Off.) I guess the functional question is: why is the local submission daemon enabled by default? What does it even buy you to run it, the docs don't seem to give any guidance about why it would or wouldn't be a good idea to use a local submission daemon for a given machine. If running the local submission daemon is a good idea for some reason, would it be possible to have that instance of sendmail identify itself as such in the ps output? Something like "sendmail: (accepting only local submissions)" would be less surprising, I think. -- Ian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message