From owner-cvs-all Thu Jun 15 14:16:59 2000 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from Awfulhak.org (tun.AwfulHak.org [194.242.139.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1AC037B660; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 14:16:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00607; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 22:15:12 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA02253; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 22:15:18 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200006152115.WAA02253@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Garrett Wollman Cc: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams), Alfred Perlstein , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@hak.lan.awfulhak.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/kern uipc_socket.c uipc_socket2.c src/sys/sys socket.h In-Reply-To: Message from Garrett Wollman of "Thu, 15 Jun 2000 16:22:14 EDT." <200006152022.QAA13933@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 22:15:18 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > < said: > > > Waiting until data is sent (or received) is a bad thing, IMO, and > > probably violates the TCP specifications. > > The entirely sockets programming model ``violates'' the TCP > specifications. (I put that in quotation marks because I don't think > anyone has seriously implemented the API suggested by the TCP > designers.) This argument doesn't hold water. (I, personally, think > it's the wrong way to go, but I understand the motivation for doing > it.) There has to be a cleaner way of doing this. Even stuffing a piece of text into the kernel at boot time that happens to look like a HTTP header would be better (well, marginally anyway). > -GAWollman > > -- > Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same > wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom > Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame > MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message