Date: 02 Apr 2001 21:56:00 -0500 From: Kirk Strauser <kirk@strauser.com> To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: My Vinum heart attack Message-ID: <873dbqhetb.fsf@pooh.honeypot> In-Reply-To: <20010403093947.K25226@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <87vgooi7kz.fsf@pooh.honeypot> <xzpn19za1iy.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no> <878zljmnw9.fsf@pooh.honeypot> <20010403093947.K25226@wantadilla.lemis.com>
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At 2001-04-03T00:09:48Z, Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com> writes:
> The real issue here is that you seemed to think it OK to update your
> kernel and not update userland. Experienced people will say "that's a
> no-no", but somehow you were able to get that impression. I'm still
> planning to investigate how this could happen.
Greg, I'm honestly not trying to be argumentative, but I don't quite agree
with your statement. I freely admit that I'm not as experienced with
FreeBSD as some people (particularly those with subject-matter books with
their name :) ), but I don't think that I'm particularly incapable of
reading documentation. In this case, following the "official" instructions
to the letter produced unforeseen consequences. I'm sure that I'll gain
wisdom with experience, but for now I'm just a relative (one year) newbie
who does as instructed.
I completely understand the need to keep kernel and userland in sync.
However, given that the instructions in /usr/src/UPDATING are a bit
misleading, I still don't know the "correct" way to installworld. That file
says, and I quote:
make buildworld
make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE
make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE
reboot (in single user) [1]
make installworld
mergemaster
reboot
[1] You can often get away without doing this step as the
system will be properly updated. During the running of the
installworld, however, system components may break and other
oddities may happen.
To a newbie's eyes, that can seem to say that if you don't reboot into
single user mode (with the new kernel, freshly installed in the previous
step), then parts of your system may be broken. That may very well be an
incorrect interpretation, but I'm not experienced enough with my chosen
favorite system to know what else it could mean.
> In any case, it does look as if you paniced.
I did indeed.
> If you had rebooted with the old kernel, all would have been well.
I did, and it was, but only because of experience with other systems
(cardinal rule: when I get lost, I stop moving until I regain direction).
If I had less experience then I shudder to think of what I might've done
next.
--
Kirk Strauser
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