Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:20:44 -0500 From: "Dave VanAuken" <dave@hawk-systems.com> To: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: RE: FreeVSD for FreeBSD? Message-ID: <DBEIKNMKGOBGNDHAAKGNKELJECAA.dave@hawk-systems.com> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.33.0103121824460.3642-100000@mobile.hub.org>
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was averaging about 200mb per jail, this was with only token reduction in un-needed files(no serious pruning) and with inclusion of port sources for common entried such as MySQL, PHP, and so forth. Hard linking them could be an option though I have not explored the ramifications of: 1) linking to a source outside of the jail(chrooted environment) 2) the problem of cvsuping the root(host) server and dealing with the jail's relianced on hard linked portions of the tree that are cvsup'ed without rebuilding the jails (this is a major pitfall of jail as I see it) Thus the desire to explore an option that has the interface and root/host management like this FreeVSD claims to have. Jail has had stuff like this on the "proposed" list for some time, but a solution in the near future without waiting on the Jail team to finish thier work would be nice. Good discussion, still looking for solution. :) Dave -----Original Message----- From: The Hermit Hacker [mailto:scrappy@hub.org] <clipped> On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Rick Duvall wrote: > This makes alot of sense to me! Why reinvent the wheel? > > I have been researching jail, but am disgusted that I have to re-compile > the jails as well after upgrading FreeBSD so that the jails will > update. Seems like a hassle to me. Also, compiling doesn't always work > when making jails. Jails also take up alot of disk space in comparison to > normal virtual hosting solution. I do, however, like the flexibility of > jail, but don't know of any exploits in Jail, or in FreeVSD for that > matter. Space wise, I've cut down significantly on the amount of disk space used by using hard links ... basically, i Have a script that builds the 'directory hierarcy' (since you can't link those) and then creates hard links to files under those hierarchies. ?Right now, I'm doing ports, X11R6, bin, usr/bin /sbin, /usr/sbin ... basically, have been doing "the easy ones" to do ... /usr/local and /etc are independant .. > > On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Dave VanAuken wrote: > > > have looked at (and developed a few solutions using) jail, but in > > short, am hoping to trade development time for ready made application > > that just requires tweaking/manipulating for comfort, rather than > > continuing with the solution development and the associated > > troubleshooting and such. > > > > Dave > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rick Duvall [mailto:maillist@coastsight.com] <clipped> > > > > FreeVSD sounds alot like jail (see man jail in 4.x). I am wondering > > what > > the difference is, and if FreeVSD uses less or more system > > resources... > > > > Any input on this would be greatly appreciated. > > > > On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Dave VanAuken wrote: > > > > > have not looked into this too deeply: > > > > > > reference link: > > > FreeVSD - http://www.freevsd.org > > > > > > Two questions: > > > > > > 1) anyone tried running FreeVSD on FreeBSD using linux compat? > > > - feedback? > > > > > > 2) anyone aware of similar projects or products specifically for > > > FreeeBSD? > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > Dave <clipped> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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