From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 31 13:41:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E452B1065741; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:41:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02A28FC16; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:41:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkcje9 with SMTP id je9so1574801bkc.13 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 06:41:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=STjgYrlL4Ig7osd77HqfVTCiLelNF3+D50pU7PHinso=; b=wjuwFT+3bhSmJCHO3a+WUqoEK8VP8M+xyuzVNd8Aez/T4G2ghtXR/J59XkxcMaF/sc Lx+wucFTx7r4icKycWjyfy1NOHlehH5TzhIh8Y8fgTWw9K++M+of/QXwC9Du30GZmdZH S/XOApc5CAmJlN3VwjXORsqBo9FGtubO7QxH/FE+jvo5U8TW2s0ET0lfjpL8eYMquOzV 6Mfykqsbg7sbc3OYjDKlQFF36kPL8+y94EOXxeOZ+Y882AswXdIx4fRjQ9PD1g6Mj/k7 5BDKnLmcvXSQKES9Zwd+f4ba6koJOssJJH0dxrhf3CwzYv7+3sEYh4slGdxYf0MzIgZG UvSA== Received: by 10.205.118.138 with SMTP id fq10mr4342659bkc.58.1346420505298; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 06:41:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.10.141 with HTTP; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 06:41:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201208310810.50725.jhb@freebsd.org> References: <97612B57-1255-4BB3-A6D3-FC74324C6D67@FreeBSD.org> <503FF0EE.2020605@FreeBSD.org> <20120831095910.GQ64447@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <201208310810.50725.jhb@freebsd.org> From: Chris Rees Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 14:41:13 +0100 Message-ID: To: John Baldwin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Baptiste Daroussin , Doug Barton , Tijl Coosemans , freebsd-ports , freebsd-current Subject: Re: pkgng suggestion: renaming /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:41:48 -0000 On 31 Aug 2012 13:15, "John Baldwin" wrote: > > On Friday, August 31, 2012 5:59:10 am Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 01:02:06PM -1000, Doug Barton wrote: > > > On 08/30/2012 07:32 AM, John Baldwin wrote: > > > > On Thursday, August 30, 2012 1:10:24 pm Chris Rees wrote: > > > >> On 30 Aug 2012 18:03, "John Baldwin" wrote: > > > >>> > > > > > > I agree with John on all counts here. Further, the idea of a > > > self-installing package, at least for the pkg stuff itself, addresses > > > the issue that someone else brought up about how to handle installation > > > of pkg by the installer for a new system. > > > > I like the idea of also providing a self-installing package, and it seems really > > easy to do, so I'll try to see what I can do in this area I'll wrote a PoC in 5 > > minutes which looks pretty good, this could also be a very simple and easy way > > to integrate into bsdinstaller. > > > > I'll do work in that direction. > > > > Still it doesn't solve the problem of boostrapping pkgng in a fresh new box, > > because the user may not know where to download the pkg-setup.sh. > > I do think that is something bsdinstall should be able to handle, and I would > certainly want bsdinstall to include a dialog that says "do you want to install > the package manager?" Putting aside my previous emotional red herring, this is a great idea; I don't see how it's different from a base binary, but OK. I don't see the need to be prompted-- it's not like the base system doesn't have other larger amounts of software that is useless to many. Can't it just go in? Chris